What???
Everton had 4 legitimate goals, and as you said were better first half by far and second half was close. Complete robbery.
Nice sportsmanship for Harper, not the same for some of the other newcastle players though.
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What???
Everton had 4 legitimate goals, and as you said were better first half by far and second half was close. Complete robbery.
Nice sportsmanship for Harper, not the same for some of the other newcastle players though.
Fair? They had 3 goals disallowed, that's the complete opposite of fair especially when they were goals.
That was in the CL. UEFA are far stricter with their touchline bans than the FA. IINM Pardew would have even been allowed in the changing rooms at HT.
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Newcastle deserved a penalty, and definitely borderline as the goal should have been called but right after the freekick for Pienaar's cynical challenge when Newcastle had a 3 on 1, wouldn't certainly have been a goal but would have been a ridiculously, ridiculously good chance. Factor in the defender on his own and how close he was to Arfa coming at him, if he'd fouled him that would have been a red card for last man back.
As I said, that is a little less certain as the goal being given and that wouldn't have happened.
Fellani's goal came in the attack right after Ba should have got a penalty, it was subtle, and small but that ball was coming through Ba, he spun to kick it and Jagielka does a short sharp two handed shove to move him a few inches and miss that ball, penalty all day.
Great game, poor officiating, another good performance by Everton in general though they were much better when Newcastle were diabolical.
Newcastle should take a huge amount of encouragement, they've been a bit cack all season, but that second half was much more like Newcastle at the start of last season. Cabaye actually had people to pass to upfront so stood way way further up the pitch and made a lot of very good passes. He was useless in the first but not in small part because there was so little movement upfront and he was sitting soooo deep.
Ba is starting to get back into form, and I think frankly if he starts playing well Cisse will benefit, Cisse looks like he needs some confidence. Arfa, didn't get the ball much in the first half though he did well when he did, just not offensively as he had no where to go.
Generally speaking the game boiled down to terrible right side for Newcastle and Everton were left to run riot down that side in the first half, second half, Newcastle shut that wing down and improved hugely.
Go watch it again, Baines retracted his leg which would have stopped the ball of Ben Arfa's break on the 3 on 1, there was nothing going to come of it had referee not blown his whistle.
Regardless Everton should have had a penalty on Osman as well. Everton deserved to win, simple as.
What **** said that?
In pre-season I began to think it was, sadly I checked in the dictionary and it translates too "lazy, cheese eating, white flag waving frog"
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In pre-season I began to think it was, sadly I checked in the dictionary and it translates too "lazy, cheese eating, white flag waving frog"
hehe, to be fair putting him up against Baines, a really excellent left back was a bad idea. He's basically not played at all for over a year, an in form team, at home, with a quality left side was always a horrendous time to give him a game. Perch at right back an even worse idea, no real pace no real way to help support the attack, a terrible partnership.
Don't judge him too harshly, not saying he's brilliant or anything, he might be terrible, but plenty of players basically playing a second league game in a year would be crap in their first game back, let alone against Baines.
Purdy, unless I missed it I didn't spot an Osman shoulda been penalty, if you mean when Gutierez put his foot in, got ALL of the ball, none of the player then without moving any more Osman went and fell over him, yeah, that wasn't in any way possible a penalty.
As for the 3 on 1, saying he retracted his leg like he would 100% have gotten the ball is ridiculous. A defender puts their leg out for the ball every single time that occasion crops up, do defenders always get the ball... no. Assuming he would is daft, the ball could also have gone anywhere if he did get it and with so many Newcastle players around the odd's were in their favour.
Poor decisions for both sides, I would say the Ba penalty was a certain one but hard to spot, Jag's did well
. The two Everton goals should have stood but if the linesman is paying attention to the chest/arms/head then Fellani looks offside, should he have seen the trailing foot, sure, I can understand that he looked offside, he certainly looked offside in real time with the camera at an angle and not seeing the foot. THe goal as well, deffo a goal but it was only just over the line as it bounced, it wasn't a foot over the line, and the post/Anichebe would have blocked the view a bit. I was sure the Lampard-- Germany goal was one without a replay, those two were close enough that while gutting for the fans, I can just understand them being wrong, the 3 on 1 not playing the advantage was just a horrific decision.
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I can't recall which one was a pen for Osman DM but left hand side of box, surrounded by 3 people.
Also Baines was definitely getting the ball, it would have hit his foot if he hadn't moved it away and had stopped looking at it and rather the ref. Annnnnnd not like it mattered anyway since everton scored
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What penalty on Osman??? Waffle waffle waffle.
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I'm pretty sure he means when Gutierez got the ball then Osman went down over his leg, but it was definitely a great tackle, he came in from the side, got all of the ball, not dangerous, then Osman went down after. Only contact was with Guti's foot after he'd made the tackle and got the ball.
Purdy, I did say that its a iffy terrible decision because, while awful it shouldn't have happened due to the goal being given but there you go. As far as I can tell both teams had two shockingly poor decisions given against them, though 3 of them should have been spotted/given by the linesman, they both sucked, the 3 on 1 no advantage given was all the ref and the most plainly obviously wrong.
Seriously though, video replay, 2 flags, manager can call for a decision 15 second replay... right decision made 99.999% of the time. Though in fairness there wasn't a huge amount of time wasted around the decisions yesterday, there often is.
I'd much prefer a 30 second stop in the game and basically no arguing/harrassing the ref(because what would be the point) than games with the wrong outcome constantly happening.
@ DM Marvaeux is decent, he actually seems quite good, but as you say against Bsines on his EPL debut fe was out his depth.
Looking back on last night Everton deserved to win, shocking ref, but I can see that being a result that could galvanise our season. Apart from Ben Arfa we have been poor so far send coming back in a tough game could really fire us up. Here's hoping anyway
Looking back on last night Everton deserved to win, shocking ref, but I can see that being a result that could galvanise our season. Apart from Ben Arfa we have been poor so far send coming back in a tough game could really fire us up. Here's hoping anyway
Looking back on last night Everton deserved to win, shocking ref, but I can see that being a result that could galvanise our season. Apart from Ben Arfa we have been poor so far send coming back in a tough game could really fire us up. Here's hoping anyway
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I missed the game last night due to a work do but all of the match reports I've read suggest we were lucky to get the draw.
Glad Ba is back to his scoring ways mind.
