Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [16 - 17th March 2013]

Norwich have got Wigan this weekend, Mark Bunn will miss the match for being hit in the armpit by the ball while McManaman will be able to play despite trying to break another player's leg... You literally could not make up a more ridiculous situation especially as John Carver is being punished for his reaction to the tackle..

I wonder if Martinez will still complain about Wigan getting "done over" by the refs/the FA?
 
grimm said:
I'm pretty sure you don't actually mean that, you don't normally post anything that terrible :confused:
Click to expand...

No I don't, but more to highlight the point that Wigan all along have said its fine which is a disgusting attitude and I would like to see their reaction, which be rightly as indignant as our own, if it happened to them.

I just find the whole thing beyond intolerable but sadly that's the FA.
 
Additionally if the official says he has seen it but chose not to punish it he should be fired as he is clearly nowhere near the standard required to officiate if he thinks that stuff is ok.
 
words can not describe how ridiculous the fa is..

2 officials missed it one said he partly seen it but not to the full extent of the challenge. Ref admits its a red card. FA wont do nothing

joke
 
Bigpig said:
words can not describe how ridiculous the fa is..

2 officials missed it one said he partly seen it but not to the full extent of the challenge. Ref admits its a red card. FA wont do nothing

joke
Click to expand...

That's the thing - it's one thing preventing them from taking retrospective action if the ref says "I saw it, but don't believe that it was a red", but if he says "I didn't see it properly, but having done so it's clearly a red" they surely have to take action?

It makes the whole issue worse as well. Whether or not McManaman meant it, people will now be on his back about that challenge for the rest of his career, as they were with Shawcross. Had it been properly punished, a lot of people could move on. The FA's decision doesn't help anyone, not even Halsey or McManaman.
 
manic111 said:
That's the thing - it's one thing preventing them from taking retrospective action if the ref says "I saw it, but don't believe that it was a red", but if he says "I didn't see it properly, but having done so it's clearly a red" they surely have to take action?
Click to expand...

It's not that simple though, is it? Officials never see incidents as we do sitting at home with 100 replays. Officials see ever incident just once and it's very rare that they'll have the perfect view of an incident that clearly shows exactly what happened and to what extent/severity.

Refs make decisions based on what they see. The ref or at least one of his assistants saw the challenge but from the angle they saw it, it didn't look as bad as what we've seen it to be and therefore his view would fall into the "I saw it but didn't believe it was a red" category.

That said, the rule is ridiculous. It shouldn't matter whether the ref missed it, saw it perfectly or only partially - if a mistake has been made, it should be corrected retrospectively.

No1newts said:
Additionally if the official says he has seen it but chose not to punish it he should be fired as he is clearly nowhere near the standard required to officiate if he thinks that stuff is ok.
Click to expand...
The officials are only claiming that they've seen the 2 players going into the challenge, not that they saw McManaman catch your lad knee high with a straight leg.

For example - anybody looking from directly behind the Newcastle player might have seen the challenge/coming together but from their angle they've not seen that McManaman's caught your lad on the knee high.
 
Last edited:
Wow just wow I can't believe i agree 100% with llambias....

Llambias added: "I am disappointed and surprised by the comments (Dave Whelan) made, in particular his assertion that the tackle by Callum McManaman 'was a fair challenge'.

"It is our strongly held opinion that the tackle on Massadio was extremely dangerous and is the type of challenge that has the potential to cause serious harm and such was the force, and reckless and dangerous nature of the challenge, even end a player's career.

"It was not a fair challenge. This view is shared by countless former players, referees and well-respected media commentators. Indeed it appears to be only Dave Whelan who takes a contrary view.

"It is clear from this decision that the current disciplinary procedures are not fit for purpose. Newcastle United, along with other clubs, have had players suspended for incidents reviewed after the game **

"Whilst not trivialising these incidents, they were not, in our opinion, of the seriousness of Callum McManaman's tackle on Haidara.

"Whilst we understand that the current procedures give the FA limited options, it cannot be correct that the most serious offences - those which have the potential to cause another player serious harm - can go unpunished, even if the original incident was seen by match officials.

"We will now be making a strong representation to the FA and the Premier League to see how a more appropriate, fair and even-handed disciplinary process can be introduced at the earliest opportunity to prevent incidents of this nature going unpunished in the future."
 
Purposely haven't commented on the nufc v Wigan saga. Very disappointed in the fa action, or lack off, which has led to this post. For once I'm fully behind a nufc board statement. I really hope for all concerned that we aren't sat here with Newcastle relegated saying that was where it all went wrong.

I think the thing that upsets me most is that the Wigan player hasn't shown any remorse, on the pitch or in the press
 
Well it's nice to see the club being relatively restrained about things and now trying to be proactive but it doesn't help us with a good prospect out long term, 3 points dropped and our assistant suspended.

Once more proof the FA aren't fit for purpose but as usual nothing will be done about it.
 
Whole thing is ridiculous.

Nice that Carver has been dealt with though, that was obviously the most important incident from the match.

Nothing really to say apart from what a massive fail from the FA over it all.
 
He's not that sort of player. He's only a young lad. He was just excited. It wasn't malicious. There was no intent. He had a cry afterwards. His mum picked him up. He got the ball. It was clumsy at best. He'll learn from this. Football isn't a non contact sport. WHAT DO YOU WANT, TO BAN TACKLING? It's a mans game.

On serious note, what an absolute shambles.
 
Truly disgusted that this has fallen out this way.

There is no place in football for that or for Wigan's response.
 
Gilly said:
Truly disgusted that this has fallen out this way.

There is no place in football for that or for Wigan's response.
Click to expand...

It's ludicrous...

Had they banned him for 3 games we could put this to bed. End if story reckless tackle but did not mean it.

Fine but getting off due to a technicality is an epic fail.
 
I mentioned earlier when it was first released that I wasn't too keen on Newcastle's statement. I don't disagree with the point of it but just like with some of the Newcastle supporters on here (and it would be the same had it been any other club), they didn't express this view when one of their own players got let off on the exact same technicality.
 
BaZ87 said:
I mentioned earlier when it was first released that I wasn't too keen on Newcastle's statement. I don't disagree with the point of it but just like with some of the Newcastle supporters on here (and it would be the same had it been any other club), they didn't express this view when one of their own players got let off on the exact same technicality.
Click to expand...

Not to sure of what your talking about. Sideshow overhead kick which broke ba nose?

Newcastle have been on the end if some very harsh after game decision than most clubs.

But that just proves something needs to change as there is no credibility or Constancy @FA
 
Cabaye's 2 footed stamp on Spearing at Anfield last season. Cabaye got away with it in the exact same circumstances as McManaman.
 
2igezhi.jpg
 
Bigpig said:
Well point in toe should have got a 3 match ban. Can't defend that.
Click to expand...

I agree and like I said, I agree with the comments made in Newcastle's statement. I just don't think it's right for them to only express this view when they're on the wrong end of the decision.
 
So Zaha can get a one match ban for giving Leeds fans the one finger salute but McManaman gets nothing for trying to break someones knee?

Roy Kean busy setting the FA standards clearly...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom