Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [18th - 20th March 2016]
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I really don't see that result as make or break, Chelsea are playing so much better it can fully be considered playing a top four team so a draw is still fantastic.
the big thing is how bad City have been in the past 10 games and how easy those games were, very bottom half heavy and they've got a much harder run of games coming.
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He was half decent last game too. Sad that one of our better halves of footy all season is a 0-0
Sadly it's inevitable we won't win as we can't score for ****
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Apparently Wenger saying after the game that we passed a mental test by beating Everton.... this is why he has to go. He simply doesn't learn. We bottle the big games at the important times then win a game after the team think the season is over... that IS the mental problem, it's actual evidence of us playing badly when the pressure is on and then getting a result when everyone tells them the season is over. Yet he thinks it's proof there is no problem. Also saying stuff like "I see the players train and they try hard", people basically tell him what the problem is but he interprets it how he wants. We say they bottle big games, it gets broadly described as a mental problem but Wenger takes that to mean they don't try.
It's the same with Ozil, people questioned his attitude, fairly, because he would often fail to show up in big games. This got randomly interpreted in the media as Ozil is lazy(this was never the problem) then we get a year of stats about how much Ozil runs during a game thus proving he was never lazy and there is no problem... but that was never the problem with his performances in the first place.
Either way, according to Wenger there is no mental problem because after we suck in the biggest game of the year we then beat the next team when the pressure is off, wooo, everything is fixed then.
It's the same with Ozil, people questioned his attitude, fairly, because he would often fail to show up in big games. This got randomly interpreted in the media as Ozil is lazy(this was never the problem) then we get a year of stats about how much Ozil runs during a game thus proving he was never lazy and there is no problem... but that was never the problem with his performances in the first place.
Either way, according to Wenger there is no mental problem because after we suck in the biggest game of the year we then beat the next team when the pressure is off, wooo, everything is fixed then.
Just watched Leicester on MotD. They're really going to do it aren't they? I've been half hoping for a few weeks and before that was wanting them to do well, but it really is theirs to lose now.
They rode their luck today!
They rode their luck today!
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Leicester players and manager after the game generally all with the mentality of, one game at a time, focus on the next game, play off talk about the title, one game at a time, focus on our jobs. That is the attitude you see from champions in any sport.
Arsenal, 5-1 against Barca, beat a bottom half Everton "we passed a mental test", win 2-3 games in a row 1/3 of the way into the season, second in the league and Walcott will talk about title chances then disappear in the next game which we lose. It's almost impossible to tell what the problem is at Arsenal..... /s
As a manager he's failing so badly with these stupid things he says. We passed a mental test after the god awful record we've had since the start of the year? But we beat Everton so tell the players they passed the mental test which is essentially saying, there is no problem and no need to improve. A real champions message would have been to say, we beat Everton, we played okay but we have to perform like that consistently, we just got beaten by Barcelona, this game means nothing, the players have to learn to play like this anywhere and in every game. That is the message to get across to the players but instead he's just congratulated their attitudes despite failing badly since going top at xmas.
EDIT:- Iwobi highlights are impressive, that he's looking around and being very aware of who to pass to with a first touch is impressive. His awareness is good, his workrate is great, his give and go was great. Willing to keep moving even when he doesn't have the ball and seemingly always thinking about what he'll do next if the ball comes to him, great attributes for a young player to build from.
Though again you have to wonder, if he's playing this good how hasn't he had more games, how was he thrown in at the deep end against Barcelona. With Walcott and Ox being just terrible all season, with Sanchez out injured and being completely out of form himself. Iwobi and Campbell should have had way more games than they've gotten this season.
Arsenal, 5-1 against Barca, beat a bottom half Everton "we passed a mental test", win 2-3 games in a row 1/3 of the way into the season, second in the league and Walcott will talk about title chances then disappear in the next game which we lose. It's almost impossible to tell what the problem is at Arsenal..... /s
As a manager he's failing so badly with these stupid things he says. We passed a mental test after the god awful record we've had since the start of the year? But we beat Everton so tell the players they passed the mental test which is essentially saying, there is no problem and no need to improve. A real champions message would have been to say, we beat Everton, we played okay but we have to perform like that consistently, we just got beaten by Barcelona, this game means nothing, the players have to learn to play like this anywhere and in every game. That is the message to get across to the players but instead he's just congratulated their attitudes despite failing badly since going top at xmas.
EDIT:- Iwobi highlights are impressive, that he's looking around and being very aware of who to pass to with a first touch is impressive. His awareness is good, his workrate is great, his give and go was great. Willing to keep moving even when he doesn't have the ball and seemingly always thinking about what he'll do next if the ball comes to him, great attributes for a young player to build from.
Though again you have to wonder, if he's playing this good how hasn't he had more games, how was he thrown in at the deep end against Barcelona. With Walcott and Ox being just terrible all season, with Sanchez out injured and being completely out of form himself. Iwobi and Campbell should have had way more games than they've gotten this season.
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We did a bit - when that Delaney shot hit the bar my heart was already about beating out my chest! Can't believe how nonchalant Kasper was about it though!
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Every weekend it's becoming a fact i am literally rooting for leicester, keeping an eye on score/stats etc. I'm still concerned about their last 3 games though. Although I do see them as pretty much guaranteed a point against United.
In other news, c'mon Bournemouth, and I suppose I'll watch the United match. Could be a big result if we beat City..
Has anyone seen any stats regarding average distance covered by teams/players? Would be interested to see where leicester rate. So much work ethic.
In other news, c'mon Bournemouth, and I suppose I'll watch the United match. Could be a big result if we beat City..
Has anyone seen any stats regarding average distance covered by teams/players? Would be interested to see where leicester rate. So much work ethic.
I think it's a formality now tbh. I'm dreading it tbh, not for the fans but that for the next 500 years all anyone will bang on about is how for example Westham should be winning the league because Leicester did it. Klopp must be crap because Leicester managed it with a fraction of the funds.
As for Everton, conceding two more at home, unsurprising really. This sums it up for me:
Everton have now won just one of their past nine Premier League games at Goodison Park.
They have the league's worst defensive record at home, conceding 28 goals - already the most they have shipped in a 38-game Premier League season.
The Toffees' record is worse than bottom club Aston Villa, who have let in 25 at Villa Park.
They have kept only two clean sheets at home in the league this season and their Goodison Park record reads: played 16, won four, drawn four, lost eight.
The fans were audibly frustrated at their team's poor form and the home defence was exposed horribly by Hector Bellerin's well-flighted pass for Iwobi's goal.
I said last year he's the manager who could finally take us down, I would still stand by that if we hadn't got a cash injection. Without it the players that would leave this summer, we would have got relegated with him in charge. He has to go for that home form and complete inability to coach and build any form of defence.
As for Everton, conceding two more at home, unsurprising really. This sums it up for me:
Everton have now won just one of their past nine Premier League games at Goodison Park.
They have the league's worst defensive record at home, conceding 28 goals - already the most they have shipped in a 38-game Premier League season.
The Toffees' record is worse than bottom club Aston Villa, who have let in 25 at Villa Park.
They have kept only two clean sheets at home in the league this season and their Goodison Park record reads: played 16, won four, drawn four, lost eight.
The fans were audibly frustrated at their team's poor form and the home defence was exposed horribly by Hector Bellerin's well-flighted pass for Iwobi's goal.
I said last year he's the manager who could finally take us down, I would still stand by that if we hadn't got a cash injection. Without it the players that would leave this summer, we would have got relegated with him in charge. He has to go for that home form and complete inability to coach and build any form of defence.