Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [28th December 2013 - 1st January 2014]

[Purdy]

Didn't Eboue get sent off for diving a few years ago, it was like a whole thing where he thought he got away with getting someone booked and then ended up sent off?

I remember Carroll doing a shocking dive when he could have scored, was it against Newcastle?

Impressive from Gazza Bale, dunno how that dirty rat only has two.

 

[tonym]

Good on him.

Poor baby Llana sounds like your typical school uses bully type. He was probably swearing at the ref and got it back, oh poor baby.

Wipe your tears and grow a pair you ******* ****. No sympathy for any player the way they speak to refs, if you give it you have to accept that you'll get it back.

Have you read what he actually said?



The club claimed Clattenburg told Lallana: "You are very different now, since you've played for England - you never used to be like this."


Seriously, they've lodged an official complaint for that!

 

[gilchrd]

Have you read what he actually said?

Aye it seemed way OTT but a source (proven track record in Saints matters) has said that wasn't what was said, this will continue to run, will be worth it if we can get rid of him for a few games.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Have you read what he actually said?



The club claimed Clattenburg told Lallana: "You are very different now, since you've played for England - you never used to be like this."


Seriously, they've lodged an official complaint for that!

While as suggested it might not be exactly phrased how papers who clearly want to make it as silly as possible, denying a clear penalty then telling the captain who asks you why it isn't a penalty "You never used to be like this", is entirely unprofessional.

You have to look past the words and see the meaning, intention and situation. Firstly he's ignoring a completely wrong decision and then deciding the player is too big for his boots, and this implies to me the ref both holds something against England international players as if they have too much ego and that he treats different players differently. That might seem minor but both things are absolutely not acceptable for a referee.

To be honest, refs DO do this all the time, some cases semi fairly. Ie if Suarez wins a few penalties/freekicks then people realise he cheated for all of them, refs are more likely to think it's a dive and more likely to get a decision wrong in the future.

But can you imagine if on the pitch a ref said to Saurez "I didn't give you that penalty because I think you're a diving cheating scumbag?" Because that is roughly the equivalent of what he verbalised on the pitch to Lallana. As said, ref's do this all the time but you wouldn't expect a ref to actually say that to Suarez, and I would expect if a ref did, that Suarez would be pretty damn angry about it, and if it directly led to losing points do you think Rodgers would complain about a ref's behaviour leading to missed points..... oh wait.

Even if the ref said precisely the above which doesn't sound great, it's extremely unprofessional and well worth complaining about.

 

[No1newts]

While your post may not have been serious or whatever, I do somewhat agree for the neutral, it would be interesting to have United fall, as they have dominated the PL since forever.

Same.

Nothing against ManU but a difference at the top for a few years would be interesting. (Bit that we'll take their place )

 

[No1newts]

While as suggested it might not be exactly phrased how papers who clearly want to make it as silly as possible, denying a clear penalty then telling the captain who asks you why it isn't a penalty "You never used to be like this", is entirely unprofessional.

You have to look past the words and see the meaning, intention and situation. Firstly he's ignoring a completely wrong decision and then deciding the player is too big for his boots, and this implies to me the ref both holds something against England international players as if they have too much ego and that he treats different players differently. That might seem minor but both things are absolutely not acceptable for a referee.

To be honest, refs DO do this all the time, some cases semi fairly. Ie if Suarez wins a few penalties/freekicks then people realise he cheated for all of them, refs are more likely to think it's a dive and more likely to get a decision wrong in the future.

But can you imagine if on the pitch a ref said to Saurez "I didn't give you that penalty because I think you're a diving cheating scumbag?" Because that is roughly the equivalent of what he verbalised on the pitch to Lallana. As said, ref's do this all the time but you wouldn't expect a ref to actually say that to Suarez, and I would expect if a ref did, that Suarez would be pretty damn angry about it, and if it directly led to losing points do you think Rodgers would complain about a ref's behaviour leading to missed points..... oh wait.

Even if the ref said precisely the above which doesn't sound great, it's extremely unprofessional and well worth complaining about.

Dear me.

Take dog abuse but you give something back and it's wrong. Didn't think you were such a bleeding heart DM.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Dear me.

Take dog abuse but you give something back and it's wrong. Didn't think you were such a bleeding heart DM.

Well done for not reading properly. Ref's swear at players, players swear at refs, you see it CONSTANTLY in games and have done for years. I have no problem.

When a ref decides to show different treatment for a particular group of players, that isn't bleeding heart anything, it's completely unprofessional bull crap.

The ref makes a completely incorrect call, a player calls him on it.... he singles out the player for having changed because he's played for England..... there isn't any problem there at all. Except the ref clearly has a bias towards England players and is stopping any dialogue with the player for a completely unacceptable reason.

Player "that was a ******* penalty"
ref "no it ******* wasn't, **** off"

this happens constantly, I have no issue. Ref's have been giving it back forever.

Player "that was a ******* penalty"
ref "i clearly saw/didn't see it, it wasn't/couldn't give a penalty"

fine

Player "that was a ******* penalty"
ref "you've become such a **** since you played for England"


sorry, no, he's showing a bias against the particular player and bringing a dislike into his job, in this case he is fobbing the player off NOT because he didn't think it was a penalty, or because he couldn't give it, he decided he didn't want to converse with the player for something entirely seperate. In this case the ref was also making completely the wrong call, the player has every right to talk to the ref about it, the ref dismisses him for non footballing reasons. Absolutely, completely unacceptable.