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So was VAR overturning Everton's late goal a "clear and obvious" mistake to overturn? it seems to me that the VAR official has made a subjective choice to overturn it and there are many who disagree with it. Shouldn't subjective decisions be left to the on-field officials?
 
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I genuinely cannot remember the last time Utd haven't had a VAR decision and or penalty go in their favour.

mmj_uk said:
So was VAR overturning Everton's late goal a "clear and obvious" mistake to overturn? it seems to me that the VAR official has made a subjective choice to overturn it and there are many who disagree with it. Shouldn't subjective decisions be left to the on-field officials?
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No, subjective decisions that lead to goals, penalties or red cards are subject to VAR reviews.

As for the disallowed goal, De Gea probably wasn't going to save it but that sort of thing has always been given offside. Quite a few years back Newcastle had one vs Chelsea(?) where they put one in the top corner but another Newcastle player had to duck out of the way of it and was subsequently ruled out. You're always going to be hard pushed to argue that a player, stood in front of the keeper and has had to avoid the ball, hasn't interfered with play.
 
BaZ87 said:
No, subjective decisions that lead to goals, penalties or red cards are subject to VAR reviews.
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So they're saying the subjective opinion of some guy in VAR is more important than the match referee? I've said it in the other thread but anything like that and the referee should be using a monitor. If it's not to correct a clear and obvious error that's indisputable then VAR shouldn't be getting involved.
 
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mmj_uk said:
So they're saying the subjective opinion of some guy in VAR is more important than the match referee?
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If you want to put it that way then yes. But wasn't that the whole point of VAR? To have decisions checked using replays? Fwiw, I'd rather we scrapped VAR for subjective calls and only used VAR for matter of fact decisions like offside, whether a foul was in or outside the area and if we continue with this crazy attacking handball rule, checking that too. Using VAR for subjective decisions has proven to be a massive waste of time, unless you support Utd because they're the only side that gets subjective var decisions.

It's worth saying that we don't actually know whether the VAR official did make a subjective call. It's possible that the ref has consulted with the lino and determined that the Everton player was interfering with play and requested VAR confirm that he was offside.
 
Did any 1 else think they missed a penalty in the build up to the "offside"goal at the end there? Everything was focus on the goal bug i think it should have been a pen. didnt get to see any replays though.

edit. looking again its a stonewall pen. https://streamvi.com/watch/1583077841

He has a shot as he's getting cleaned out by Awb and is then ruled as offside
 
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BaZ87 said:
I genuinely cannot remember the last time Utd haven't had a VAR decision and or penalty go in their favour.


No, subjective decisions that lead to goals, penalties or red cards are subject to VAR reviews.

As for the disallowed goal, De Gea probably wasn't going to save it but that sort of thing has always been given offside. Quite a few years back Newcastle had one vs Chelsea(?) where they put one in the top corner but another Newcastle player had to duck out of the way of it and was subsequently ruled out. You're always going to be hard pushed to argue that a player, stood in front of the keeper and has had to avoid the ball, hasn't interfered with play.
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He didnt move from the actual shot tho. It deflected off a United player which took it in his path. Surely the "obstructing the keepers vision" argument is for the initial shot only?
 
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