Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [3rd May - 7th May 2014]

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Pighardia said:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/03/sunderland-face-legal-fight-points-deduction

Expected.



Won't amount to anything though.
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Looking at the table and the remaining games, Sunderland have got two very winnable home games remaining. If they do win them its possibly completely irrelevant whether they get docked the single point they gained unfairly plus the 3 punishment points that also should have been docked.

Of course West Brom and Hull might have a valid complaint if they marginally finish below Sunderland in the final standings and therefore get less Epl winnings because of this, but they will posssibly be too relieved at staying up to really care

Should Man Utd not complain for missing out on a final place, as Sunderland should have been kicled out of the league cup as well lol


Edit - of course yesterday's three points are of vital relevance to the case, and will probably cause nothing to happen
 
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BaZ87 said:
I hate this sort of attitude. The day you start accepting any degree of failure you may as well give up. You're Man Utd ffs not some mid table side.
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I have to agree with this...but for different reasons.

Is no Europa League football a good thing?

Next year, will be about teaching our players to play TOTAL football.
The first 25-odd games are going to be treated as training games, to learn how to keep possession, comfortably. Identifying players from the youth team who can adapt to the system. And then using the Winter transfer window to bring in suitable players.

Our main target next year is the league.
We will be trying to win it, so the more games we have to practice the "system", the better.

If we can get an additional 10 games or so, playing in EL, then so be it.
 
You realise that when you play extra midweek games it means more tired players, more injured players, less training sessions and players more tired for said training sessions.

They'll learn a lot more with a new manager playing proper quality teams(epl ones) then having a week to train and reflect on those games, than play decent teams, barely train, travel all over, play rubbish teams, then rest before playing an EPL game again.

Practising passing football in what often ends up being crappy conditions on rubbish pitches isn't going to get you very far.

IN a year under a technical manager I'd say training will be much more important than what is effectively 8-9 friendlies.
 
EL participation would be detrimental for United.. Knuckle down with the EPL first and hopefully be in contention for 4th and subsequently CL football the year after.

EL does not hold much value for Man U.
 
FrankJH said:
plus the 3 punishment points that also should have been docked.
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Why 'should' have? The rule states the FA 'may' remove points from a club, not have to, and certainly it doesn't have to dock unwon points. Previous precedent has been to remove won points in which the player has played. For example the MK Dons were docked the 3 points they won when the unregistered player came on as a sub and scored the winning goal. In the 4 league games the Sunderland player played, they won a grand total of 1 point, and even then, were winning 1-0 before he came on as a sub. In the cup, they were getting beat, until he went off......

When the FA fined Sunderland, every owner\managing director of every club in the Premier League was informed of the discretion, and of the fine, and not one raised a complaint as we were effectively down barring a miracle. As soon as the miracle started taking shape, that's when they decided to complain about it.
 
Europa League winners get a Champions League spot next season, far more incentive to do well in that competition then and possibly United's only real hope of getting back in it.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
Europa League winners get a Champions League spot next season, far more incentive to do well in that competition then and possibly United's only real hope of getting back in it.
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Or we can spend lots of money and get back in the top 4? :p

Will depend on who we can sign and how things go with the new manager though.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
Europa League winners get a Champions League spot next season, far more incentive to do well in that competition then and possibly United's only real hope of getting back in it.
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With LVG and 4 new players, we will be back in top 4. Chelsea had a crap season like us in 2012 and they've been unlucky to lose the PL this year. Question is who drops out of top 4 next season, Liverpool or Arsenal.
 
NeedAUsername said:
With LVG and 4 new players, we will be back in top 4. Chelsea had a crap season like us in 2012 and they've been unlucky to lose the PL this year. Question is who drops out of top 4 next season, Liverpool or Arsenal.
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People have been saying we'll be the next team to drop out of the top 4 for years, hasn't happened. I remember a couple of years back Sky Sports were saying the "balance of power" in North London had shifted, still waiting on that one as well. :p
 
Got football much next season?

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