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Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [6th- 11th March 2020]

Discussion in 'The Football Stadium' started by Cosimo, Mar 6, 2020.

  1. fez

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    Why have City been banned....
     
  2. Andybtsn

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    Tinkering with sponsorship revenue numbers
     
  3. BaZ87

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    It's going to be incredibly difficult for City to spend their way out of trouble if the UEFA charge sticks. Last season City made a profit of £10m, that would have been including as much as £100m from being in the CL, extra gate money from more matches and bonuses from sponsors. Even with increased sponsor money from legit deals like Puma and the new PL tv deal that starts this season, it's difficult to see how City won't be losing £50m+ next season if they don't qualify for the CL. That loss could be even more if City lose this case because UEFA may then look at their dodgy commercial deals and reduce the value of them, potentially making that loss closer to £100m.

    The only way City could spend big this summer if the UEFA ban stands would be to make a big profit on a sale. Sterling or De Bruyne from an accounting point of view are probably valued at £10-20m right now - selling one of those for £150m+ would boost their profits by £130-140m which would over the loses they're likely to make and allow them to spend £100-200m in the summer.*

    *Transfer fees are accounted for over the life of a players contract so if you spend £200m and the player was give a 5 year deal then the expense on the accounts is £40m per season.
     
  4. fez

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    FFP. Without CL they will lose a massive amount of money and what makes you think they will be able to sign/keep their top players with A) the risk of this happening again B) Whilst staying within FFP in the future. What you are saying makes zero sense.

    They are not a massively profitable club with a huge fanbase worldwide.
     
  5. Andybtsn

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    You're making it sound like they need a massive overhaul. Man U managed to keep their better players and sign the likes of Pogba, Ibra and Bailly without CL football, I'm guessing many more players too, and yes I know they make more profit.

    City might have to hold back on signing 100m full backs but in terms of competing, they will be able to and be better off without the distraction of CL football. People think they will have to flog everyone to survive.
     
  6. omnomnom

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    They did sign those players but commercially they are a different level to City...the comparison is just wild to be honest.

    The "distraction" of CL football is with 100mil. If they dont have that then they will again break FFP because the commercial deals they had are basically nonsense.. They would have to find a way to bridge that gap and thats by selling players.

    Do City need an overhaul?Maybe....maybe not....but they do have one decent cb who has been injured all season, the other is a 35 year old midfielder. Aguero is only getting older, D Silva is retiring and they dont have a decent left back at the club. They need players.

    Id argue needing the above PLUS selling a Sterling and KDB as an overhaul myself.
     
  7. adam cool dude

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    The thing you do not get is that City can't spend willy nilly anymore without legit income!
     
  8. mysticsniper

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    That was such a good win for us tonight, after the recent poor form.

    Vardy is back!!
     
  9. el_dazza

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    We're doomed. Norwich and us certain for the drop now.
     
  10. ThestigGT999

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    is there a reason they have ucl/el ban over a transfer ban?
     
  11. Shamikebab

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    Because that is the punishment for failing FFP in Europe.
     
  12. BaZ87

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    It's a punishment for FFP breaches, not the punishment. IINM UEFA cannot directly issue transfer bans, that's FIFA and those bans are issued for clubs that break rules around transfes - tapping players up, dodgy deals to enable clubs to sign kids from abroad etc. UEFA can indirectly issue transfer bans or limitations though as they did with City back in 2014. As well as being fined, City had to agree to a limit on their spending the following summer in order to be able to compete in the CL.
     
  13. ThestigGT999

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    oh ok that makes it more clear
     
  14. Pigeon_Killer

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    Arsenal v City has been postponed :(
     
  15. jonneymendoza

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    Yup.expect others to follow
     
  16. rebel rebel

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    Great, didn't fancy watching that at dialysis tonight.
     
  17. Andybtsn

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    Meh, end the seasons now and allow Leeds to be crowned champions please.
     
  18. fez

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    I think we should just end the season and call it a wash. Had some fun and thats all that matters. No league winners, no relegations. Just act like it never happened.
     
  19. chroniclard

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    :D
     
  20. adam cool dude

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    If this happened due to Coronavirus I think Merseyside would get burned to the ground and civil war in the UK!