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Why not film to stop the immediate threat of rape? Or burglary? Or knife crime?

Because people know they are going to prison if they commit rape, burglary and knife crime and get caught. Where as many people don't realise they will goto prison if they riot as a group. None of those people who went rioting thought they were going to prison. They thought it was a right.
 
Isn't Starmer trying to introduce a "Islamaphobia" bill which would make it illegal to disparage Islam or anyone who follows the religion.

For me, religion should NEVER have become a protected category, it shouldn't have become part of the Equalities act.

Equalities act & protected categories should only be for immutable characteristics. Religion is a CHOICE, it CAN be changed.
Yes, and I think some Muslim organisation got to write it. It's the same with a Jewish organisation writing the definition of anti-Semitism.

I wonder if the natives will be allowed to write a law that can weaponized against criticism.
Why not film to stop the immediate threat of rape? Or burglary? Or knife crime?
The media is nearly entirely progressive/globalists. They will amplify anything in line with the progressive/globalist worldview, like cramming Stephen Lawrence in everyone's face for 30+ years, and minimize/bury anything inconvenient to the progressive/globalist worldview.
 
Because people know they are going to prison if they commit rape, burglary and knife crime and get caught. Where as many people don't realise they will goto prison if they riot as a group. None of those people who went rioting thought they were going to prison. They thought it was a right.
what is rationale for not filming the criminal being sentenced (if they are present) human rights ?
I'm not unconvinced that filming rape sentencing too - would help bring home reality to potential perpetrators of impact to victims, maybe Romanians will show Tates trial.
media do reports on such trials anyway, so filming cuts out and possibility of slant they add.
 
what is rationale for not filming the criminal being sentenced (if they are present) human rights ?
I'm not unconvinced that filming rape sentencing too - would help bring home reality to potential perpetrators of impact to victims, maybe Romanians will show Tates trial.
media do reports on such trials anyway, so filming cuts out and possibility of slant they add.

I think the rationale is to stop vigilantism. It's also illegal to film or record any court footage without the judges permission. I'm not sure how legal reporting on aspects of trial are or if the judge can just order a media blackout.

Logically it also stops you filming judges being obnoxious, which they won't like. I wanted to record some civil cases but thought better of it - it's illegal.

IMO the real reason why you can't film trials though is because judges make the rules and judges don't want to be judged by the public.
 
I think the rationale is to stop vigilantism. It's also illegal to film or record any court footage without the judges permission. I'm not sure how legal reporting on aspects of trial are or if the judge can just order a media blackout.

Logically it also stops you filming judges being obnoxious, which they won't like. I wanted to record some civil cases but thought better of it - it's illegal.

IMO the real reason why you can't film trials though is because judges make the rules and judges don't want to be judged by the public.
It's more to stop any identification of the jury or vulnerable witnesses, and trial "blackouts" don't really happen unless the reporting of one trial could endanger the proceedings in another linked trial.
Almost all trials are open to the press and often public, but very rarely attended and usually the main limitation is that you cannot take photographs in court, nor can you ID a juror (ever in an ongoing trial), or a witness or victim if the judge has issued an order not to.

However there is also a law that limits what can be said on any suspect after they've been arrested in order to protect the reliability of the resulting trial, basically so that potential jurors don't see a load of nonsense in the Sun or the Express that is likely to affect how the jury looks at the actual evidence.

It's not that Judges don't want to be judged by the public (thank god we don't have elected judges and prosecutors like the states*), it's that it's considerably easier to protect witnesses/get victims to testify when they aren't going to have their photos in the local rag.

This isn't something new or strange, it's about trying to make sure that the case is actually tried on the evidence and that people are not put off appearing as witnesses, and that it's harder for jurors to be ID's and influenced, threatened or bribed.


*Absolutely the worst idea, as it means that a judge and prosecutor is very much aware of how they behave in court might affect their chances of re-election and thus will in many cases run the case for the votes, not for the law.
 
Yes, and I think some Muslim organisation got to write it. It's the same with a Jewish organisation writing the definition of anti-Semitism.

I wonder if the natives will be allowed to write a law that can weaponized against criticism.

The media is nearly entirely progressive/globalists. They will amplify anything in line with the progressive/globalist worldview, like cramming Stephen Lawrence in everyone's face for 30+ years, and minimize/bury anything inconvenient to the progressive/globalist worldview.

The cuckolding of our police forces & government is sickening.

These are two 'press conferences' that were clearly dictated by the Muslim communities

This one from Oldham, looks more like a hostage video than a police press conference.


Then this one from West Midlands where the first words are thanking the 'leaders and elders for affording him the opportunity to speak'


You can quite literally see fear in his eyes as those one wrong word means death.[/I]
 
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