Grooming gangs

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Newcastle grooming gang jailed for raping 13-year-old girl

The girl says the group "tortured" her and made her childhood a "living nightmare".
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I wonder if all the ultra right libertarians who wanted to defend Kevin Spacey because he was not guilty now want to defend the guy who said he hated the UK because of the accusation and subsequent not being found guilty by the racist UK, who has now been jailed for rape on multiple other counts, think he was innocent in the first place?
 
hurfdurf said:
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Newcastle grooming gang jailed for raping 13-year-old girl

The girl says the group "tortured" her and made her childhood a "living nightmare".
www.bbc.co.uk

I wonder if all the ultra right libertarians who wanted to defend Kevin Spacey because he was not guilty now want to defend the guy who said he hated the UK because of the accusation and subsequent not being found guilty by the racist UK, who has now been jailed for rape on multiple other counts, think he was innocent in the first place?
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A very brief examination of what you're saying seems to be that you're critical of people spouting opinions based on the outcome of the most recent court case.

...based on the outcome of the most recent court case

So were you respectful of the previous court result or are you cherry picking the times when it aligns for your opinion.
 
Jack_green said:
The question here is: they and their families were given a home. They abused a second chance and now should be exported back were they came from. Irrelevant what could happen to them, they failed to become responsible citizens and now we should wash our hands of them and their family.
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Yes, this 100%. We need to stop importing the trash of the world.
 
arknor said:
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Man jailed 21 years on from raping 14-year-old girl in alley - after victim came forward to Rotherham sex abuse probe

Waleed Ali was previously convicted of raping and indecently assaulting another girl, 13, in the same alleyway in early 2003.
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people still coming forward and getting results
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Rotherham grooming gang jailed for total of 106 years

The men were all convicted in June, after a nine-week trial at Sheffield Crown Court, which was the result of an investigation by the National Crime Agency's Operation Stovewood
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Weirdly can't see this on the BBC or guardian
 
Dis86 said:
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Rotherham grooming gang jailed for total of 106 years

The men were all convicted in June, after a nine-week trial at Sheffield Crown Court, which was the result of an investigation by the National Crime Agency's Operation Stovewood
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Weirdly can't see this on the BBC or guardian
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Operation Stovewood: Seven jailed for child abuse in Rotherham - BBC News

The case is part of the Operation Stovewood inquiry into child abuse in Rotherham.
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Dis86 said:
Found it tucked away on S Yorks. Thought a group of peeps being jailed for over 100 years might rank above a story about some random ballerina that hardly anyone has heard of.
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It was headline on the BBC news channel, repeatedly earlier.

I'm not sure how much more high profile you'd expect it to be.

IIRC the BBC news site lists the biggest/latest and most viewed/read stories in several general categories, so something that happened yesterday might quickly drop down because there is a limited amount of space to use on the "front page" for any one type or region of story usually, so something that happened yesterday will tend not to be "front page" unless it's being viewed a lot as it's been pushed off by newer items from the "breaking" or "new items" parts of the page.
This isn't anything strange, or nefarious, this is a website that is set up to show newer and more viewed items (as is the norm) on the front page working as it's intended to work, and has done for years.
 
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Werewolf said:
It was headline on the BBC news channel, repeatedly earlier.

I'm not sure how much more high profile you'd expect it to be.

IIRC the BBC news site lists the biggest/latest and most viewed/read stories in several general categories, so something that happened yesterday might quickly drop down because there is a limited amount of space to use on the "front page" for any one type or region of story usually, so something that happened yesterday will tend not to be "front page" unless it's being viewed a lot as it's been pushed off by newer items from the "breaking" or "new items" parts of the page.
This isn't anything strange, or nefarious, this is a website that is set up to show newer and more viewed items (as is the norm) on the front page working as it's intended to work, and has done for years.
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Ah yes, "the websites" to blame.
 
Werewolf said:
It was headline on the BBC news channel, repeatedly earlier.

I'm not sure how much more high profile you'd expect it to be.

IIRC the BBC news site lists the biggest/latest and most viewed/read stories in several general categories, so something that happened yesterday might quickly drop down because there is a limited amount of space to use on the "front page" for any one type or region of story usually, so something that happened yesterday will tend not to be "front page" unless it's being viewed a lot as it's been pushed off by newer items from the "breaking" or "new items" parts of the page.
This isn't anything strange, or nefarious, this is a website that is set up to show newer and more viewed items (as is the norm) on the front page working as it's intended to work, and has done for years.
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Nothing to see here, guys, all totally normal.
 
Werewolf said:
It was headline on the BBC news channel, repeatedly earlier.

I'm not sure how much more high profile you'd expect it to be.

IIRC the BBC news site lists the biggest/latest and most viewed/read stories in several general categories, so something that happened yesterday might quickly drop down because there is a limited amount of space to use on the "front page" for any one type or region of story usually, so something that happened yesterday will tend not to be "front page" unless it's being viewed a lot as it's been pushed off by newer items from the "breaking" or "new items" parts of the page.
This isn't anything strange, or nefarious, this is a website that is set up to show newer and more viewed items (as is the norm) on the front page working as it's intended to work, and has done for years.
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Wow, what a thing to post.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
Ah yes, "the websites" to blame.
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Yes.

It's not really that hard a thing to understand.

The website is set up to work showing "News", now under most definitions news is something that is new, if you actually look a little past the front page you'll even see a list of news items for each region that is in pure chronological order based on when it was reported/added to the site.
So in the "latest" frames on the site it will tend to highlight the latest big stories for a while, whilst the "most popular" lists show the items that have been most viewed.

Skunkworks said:
Nothing to see here, guys, all totally normal.
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Yes.
Unless you expect the BBC to have someone sat manually filling in every frame on the website...at some point you automate the system, and with a news website like the BBC it's going to be a mix of type of news (political, criminal, sports, entertainment etc), region, and when it was filed. A 24+ hour old news report tends not to remain on the front page of any dynamic news website unless it is really major and being actively updated, at some point it drops down the listings.

The story of these scumbags getting jailed is news, but I suspect may not even reach some of the papers as it's no longer a "major breaking" story but a continuation of what at this point is something like 10 years of cases.
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Wow, what a thing to post.
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Why, because it's actually based on some understanding of what happens when you've got a website that sorts news by type and how "new" it is so a story that broke yesterday about a court case might not be at the top of the headlines on a page that refreshes at set intervals based on age of story and how much it's been viewed.

If the BBC was trying to hide these stories I doubt they'd do things like have them tagged so you can easily look at any related news reports (5+ pages of them)...


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Not sure how an article about a ballerina is popular but hey ho
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Because by the sounds of it she was popular and well known amongst people who follow ballet and dance? So it's an item that is getting a lot of views from people that like those or are curious?:)
 
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Dis86 said:
Found it tucked away on S Yorks. Thought a group of peeps being jailed for over 100 years might rank above a story about some random ballerina that hardly anyone has heard of.
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Sentencing is not news, unless the sentence is manifestly wrong - which is rare these days as judges have very little leeway in what sentence they pass. The trial is news. The verdict is news. The sentence is not. This is true for most crimes. The plain fact is that sentence can be weeks or months after the verdict, and the media have lost interest unless they have a political axe to grind. Like, say GB news reporting on people with dark skins being sentenced. We know they are going to prison (this is a general comment, not a specific one for this case) so how long isn't worth bumping other stories for.
 
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