Ground Grid, Dynogrid etc etc - anyone used this?

I'll have a shop around I'm sure there are plenty of places in the area so I might be able to save a few quid, though having got the grid for nothing I'm still pretty much quids in compared with how much I thought it would cost!!! :)
 
Just looking into buying the geotextile fabrid and maybe some of the geotextile grid...though that seems to be only available in huge amounts and is very pricey!!!

Any chance you could link me to the right kind of geotextile fabric as there are various different ones (with lots of different names) and I'm not really sure exactly which one I need...
 
Cheers, I'll get some ordered over the weekend!

Looking to make a start on this tomorrow, little man is going to my parents for the day and the gf and I will be marking out and beginning the digging...

Once that's done i'll need to order up the aggregate and book a compactor for hire and keep fingers crossed that the weather holds and we can crack on with it.

Gonna be a lot of work but ultimately will be worth it.
 
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Company I used to work for had it's own version of this called Cedagravel. It was about £12.50/m2 and was a uniform hexagon pattern and you didn't see the actual plastic material when filled and came with a textile already attached. I think there is a similar product called Core Gravel which I think is cheaper. When filled with aggregate they can take like 400 Tonnes (Not that I think you'll be parking a commercial airliner in your front garden).
 
With several large stacks of grid down the side of the house, the nature of my weekend was rather dictated to me this weekend...crack on with sorting out the front garden!!!

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I forgot to take a proper before photo but you can see from the estate agents pic when we purcahsed the house that the front garden was a bit of a mess. Next to the driveway there were several paving slabs thrown down to allow a second car to park on the garden, these had obviously been used a for quite some time and had sunk into the dirt a fair bit, the whole thing was uneven and the grass patchy.

Also, the front corner by next doors fence was a strange lump in the ground, (you can just about see it in the photo). It turned out to be a rubble sack about a 1/4 full of sand which had been left over when the neighbours had block paved their front garden and driveway, the previous occupant of our house asked if he could have it and then left the bag in the garden and didn't do anything with it...for about 12 years!!!

I had a go at digging it out but it was so well embedded and grown over there was no way I'd have managed to move it. As luck would have it my neighbours had a mini digger in a few weeks ago to do some work in their back garden and they very kindly used it to pull the bag out and we got rid of it!

So, Saturday my little boy went off to my parents for a few hours so my girlfriend and I could geto to work. We started by lifting and moving the slabs, the measuring and pegging out edges so we knew the area we needed to dig out.

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Then we began lifting the turf. This was a real pain of a job as the ground was so compacted from cars parking on it that the turf was really well bedded down and hard to lift. It doesn't help that the soil is very clayey and in the dry weather has gone very hard. Methodical cutting with a lawn edger and then lifting with a spade got the job done but it took a very long time.

It also didn't help that we had very little space to put the lifted turf anywhere, so we loaded the car and took what we could to the local tip and carried on.

Thankfully, being a nice hot day, an icecream van came past so after a couple of lemonade lollies each we had enough energy to get all the turf lifted and we could begin on breaking the ground up ready to dig down to our depth of 100mm...

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This also proved to be hard work due to the hardness of the ground and the presence of a lot of lumps of broken brick etc that stopped the fork going into the ground at all but we made a decent start before out little man was delivered back to us and the work for the day stopped.

I had hope to really get on again on Sunday but unfortunately my girlfriend spent most of Saturday night being sick and Sunday was laid up in bed, leaving me to entertain our little monster!!!

Eventually the monster grew tired and fell asleep so I got back out into the garden with my trusty garden fork and continued breaking up the soil. As luck would have it my neighbour loaned me a pick axe which sped the job up rather though was much much harder work than the fork!!! So now the ground is pretty much all broken up ready to be dug out and taken to the tip!

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My Dad has gotten hold of loads of heavy duty sacks for me from his work so tonight I intend to bag up as much of the soil as possible ready for the tip, then at the weekend I'll hopefully be able to get rid of it all and we'll be able to get the edge boarding in place ready for the geotextile material (which I need to order today) and the aggregate in place!
 
Terram arrived yesterday - glad I didn't pay any extra for next day delivery!

Tuesday evening the girlfriend and I bagged up about 20 sacks ready to go to the tip at the weekend, sadly it only got rid of the pile of removed turf you can see in the photo above and a bit of the soil. It's going to be a real pig of a job to get rid of it all and get the ground level ready for the fabric and then the aggregate!!! :(
 
Only another 60 bags or so to go:eek::D.

With the wear & tear on the car, plus fuel, it would have been cheaper with a 4yd midi skip.
 
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Yeah, it probably would have been though the tip is not far away. The problem I have is that with out little 17month monster about we can't be sure when exactly we can get anything much done so could end up not making the most of having the skip.
 
Well, I've been doing more digging and now the garden is really starting to look dug out rather than just broken up.

I have decided that as it is only going to be grass growing in the grid I might as well keep the soil I've been digging out to use for laying the grid onto rather than buying nice proper top soil as I was going to do.

So I've been shovelling it into a couple of big bulk sacks I had lying around and now have one almost completely full and one about a third full.
 
Well, I've been doing more digging and now the garden is really starting to look dug out rather than just broken up.

I have decided that as it is only going to be grass growing in the grid I might as well keep the soil I've been digging out to use for laying the grid onto rather than buying nice proper top soil as I was going to do.

Makes a lot of sense reusing the top soil.
 
Only dawned on me the other day that there was really no need for lovely soil as it's only going to be grass growing in the grid, so made sense to reuse and means I'll save a bit of money from what I had planned too.
 
Well, having had a few weeks of very little digging, a holiday and very little money etc, I'm finally getting on with this project again.

Some digging on Saturday (which nearly killed me due to the heat and I'm very nearly at the point of being dug out far enough to crack on with the terram and the aggregate.

I'm taking a day off on Friday and my plan is get the edges boarded to contain the grid but I have a couple of questions first...

1) Timber for framing

I'm thinking of using 6 x 2inch timber (145mm x 45mm) as the depth of the grid needs to be 100mm and I want a raised lip around it to help maintain separation and edges of the beds which will be on three sides of the grid.

Now, what type of timber should I be looking at? Wickes (my easiest supplier) has kiln dried and treated timber but it says not for use in direct ground contact??? For structural work I can see that it makes sense but would it be ok for framing the grid?

http://www.wickes.co.uk/kiln-dried-treated-regular-45x145mmx36m/invt/190169/

2) Checking digging depth

I'm thinking for, checking the depth I've dug out I can use a long straight piece of wood and a couple of lengths of the correct depth wood. That way I can lay the long length across the area resting it on the frames which will be set at the correct depth then see if depth bits fit in nicely...if too shallow I will need a bit more digging, if much too deep, bung a bit of soil back in.

Are there any better/easier methods than this?

3) Checking aggregate depth

When it comes to the depth of the compacted aggregate again I'm not sure how to gauge the depth. I have read about marking the framing with the correct depths and working to those, which round the edge seems simple enough...however when it comes to middle I'm a little unsure.

My guess would be to be work in sort of rows and set up a string line at the side of the row at the level going from the framing and work to that then when it's correct move the string line and do another row? Does that sound about right?

Any help or advice very, very welcome indeed (particularly with the timber question - as that's what I'm hoping to achieve on friday) as this is the first time I've tackled such a project and I'm not really sure on what I'm doing!! - I think I've taken too long and given myself too much time to think and introduce worries!!! lol
 
Timber use 6x1 sawn, or 5x1 pressure treated, you can get it in various lengths from 3mtrs , up to 5.4 mtrs, Wickes don't stock it, have a look at Yell for a timber merchant, builder merchant, but they tend to be expensive a lot of agricultural merchants stock it as well
Hold the 6x1 in place with 2x2 sawn treated pegs.

As to depth of aggregate, I just set out pegs to the depth I want across the area & build up aggregate until I get to finished height.

Digging depth I just set edge markers, set up level at finished height, I usually have couple of the pegs marked up with depth of aggregate, depth of grids, it basically a reference point to refer to.
 
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Cheers, good advice there, which seems to make sense to my poor brain.

I know you've said 6 x 1 but would the wickes timber I linked to be ok for the framing as it's approx 6 x 2 and would give me a nice thick sturdy edging to the beds which I think I would prefer to 1 inch wide edging?
 
Nothing wrong with using 6x2, but if you could source longer lengths would save on having joins, if any.

Really annoys me, that Wickes don't stock longer lengths like 4.2 & 4.8 & 5.1 mtr timber.

Should be able to get treated 6x2 at around £15 per for 4.8 to 5.1 mtr length.
 
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Hmmm good point, I'll have a word with the timber merchants and see if they can do me 6 x 2 in longer lengths, 5.1m would be great as the sides are about 5m x 4m...ish

Just spoken to my local timber yard, they have 6 x 2 in 5.4m lengths ( ithink that's right) and 2 x 2 in 4.8m lengths.

Looking at 5 x 5m (I have a couple of additional jobs I want some for, this will give me plenty) and 3 x 4.8m of the 2x2 delivered is just over £98, not too bad I don't think.

Will also need some somre of fixings to fix the pegs to the frame, probably screws I think as I hate nailing and am terrible at it!!! ;)
 
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Yeah, that's the sort of thing I was thinking of using (the deck screws). I'm guessing the corners of the framing should really be screwed together, though I'm not quite sure how I'd manage that as the area I've dug is pretty much the exact size I need for the framing...

Guess I could put the framing together and then put it into place...
 
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