GSX 1000, bad sound?

I'd love to try this binaural audio stuff..but 159 is a bit rich for me after buying the game ones, and they are already a reasonable step up from my 6 year old razer carchaias.
Try these...
With all kind of audio effects/processing disabled.

While not best settings first minute of this is excellent quick test for binaural sound stage of headphones with gun shots at different directions and distances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1_20T8x_OI
(standard stereo somewhere ~12 mins)

Longer game play in this
https://youtu.be/B8xZp0WPwxs?t=18m38s

Here's another comparison in Singularity game, starting from stereo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ROujJ8Ae8
 
Yeah. I don't really understand myself, the Asus drivers page never had the SB utility for download for windows 10.

If I wanted better sound which card would you go for? Based on my mobo..and the fact I'll upgrade my mobo in less than 12 months.

Is there a card worth getting?
Asus doesn't exactly have stellar support for their older products like sound cards.
Heck, hardware wise quite nice Xonar Phoebus got ditched in under five years.
While Creative offers Win10 drivers for dozen+ years old "Why would anyone even want to use it?" cards...
Whose quality has been exceeded by integrated Realteks of all more decent motherboards.

PCI-express bus (at least in x1 slots) will be around for long time, so motherboard changes don't limit use of separate PCI-e sound card.
Separate sound card also relieves from looking that part when selecting motherboard.
Actually I've never used any integrated sound card in desk PCs.


Sound Blaster Z has very good DAC (~2 steps above Conexant of GSX) and overall features for price.
Headphone output is average/mid-level, though Sennheiser Game One definitely isn't demanding with lowish impedance and very high efficiency.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/search?ssearch=sound+blaster+z

as for longevity z-serie is half dozen years old, but unless creative's leadership goes nuts, i expect driver support to continue at least another half dozen years.
i mean that original x-fi card serie is pretty medieval by time scale of pc tech:
http://support.creative.com/kb/showarticle.aspx?sid=126331


right now £110 costing year old sound blasterx ae-5 has literally top level dac and one of the best headphone outputs of any sound card.
(that would drive pretty much any headphone without slightest sweat)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/crea...aming-sound-card-70sb174000000-sc-104-cl.html

Sound BlasterX G5 is near same level USB sound card.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/crea...-card-with-headphone-amplifier-sp-183-cl.html
Though it uses TPA6120 headphone amp chip, which isn't overall greatest with average distortion to low impedance loads and other quirks.
But of course those downsides never bother marketers and fashion driven consumers.
Asus brought that chip to sound cards with big hype...


If I were right now choosing sound card for that price AE-5 would be no further thinking choise.
I mean that custom design headphone output is technically very good:
It's got very good voltage range for higher voltage needing cans.
Good current output capability for low impedance lower efficiency cans.
And very low output impedance for ideal damping factor with even lowest impedance headphones.



While there's nothing preventing some motherboard maker using AE-5 level parts in integrated sound card, avoiding EMI is lot harder on cramped motherboard.
(with PCB traces to rear connectors also going near graphics card)
And of course you'll get return for money for that expensive motherboard only for as long as you'll use it.
While sound card can be kept over PC updates keeping its value for long time.
Unless really needing all the slots or going for some extreme overclocking luxury motherboards just don't give any "ROI" for gamer over mid level/standard good motherboard.
 
Right now £110 costing year old Sound BlasterX AE-5 has literally top level DAC and one of the best headphone outputs of any sound card.
(that would drive pretty much any headphone without slightest sweat)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/crea...aming-sound-card-70sb174000000-sc-104-cl.html

Shame it isn't easier to upgrade the opamps and capacitors - swapping out those LM4562s for some OPA2209 and upgrading a couple of the capacitors for Nichicon KZs would turn it from a great soundcard into a phenomenal one.
 
Owned the GSX 1000 since release and wouldn't change it for anything other than a upgraded version of the GSX. The surround sound from the GSX simply can not be matched I have tested almost all them. I use the GSX for gaming with Philips Fidelio x2 and Soundblaster z for music. The GSX does music very well but you must change it to stereo to get the HD audio output something I can not be bothered doing each time I want to listen to music its faster just to change the cable on my headphones.

am a massive fan of the GSX talking from experience :p

@op make sure the GSX is using the correct audio device by default it uses the communication device. The GSX comes with two audio devices on board one for gaming main audio and one for communication Discord, teamspeak etc this allows you to control game and communication levels separately.
 
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Bought me an ae-5.

Literally everything suggests awesomeness, and needing to spend considerable more to get better. Gsx almost had my cash. And at 159.99 was very tempted, but I suspect a hint of snake oil....

The ae-5 just has the specs for future enjoyment and capabilities that I may use.

Sbx might not be as good as the gsx surround...but I'm sure it's good enough.

Plus I don't need another dust magnet.
 
Oh btw I had mic problems with my Asus mobo in the end. Very quiet.

Plugged game one in to my surface pro and the mic sounds brilliantly clear and loud.

Apparently a realtek soundblaster Asus issue.
 
The sennheiser is brilliant for the surround sound experience in FPS.

Might sell mine for £100 quid though because I havent been playing many shooters lately.
 
Picked up an ae-5 to have a play with - I highly suspect it will leave me wanting to either bypass the power supply pins on the 4562s with 10uf KZs and/or swap them out for OPA2209s though :s
 
Picked up an ae-5 to have a play with - I highly suspect it will leave me wanting to either bypass the power supply pins on the 4562s with 10uf KZs and/or swap them out for OPA2209s though :s
That meant nothing to me, so not sure if that throws positive or negative light on the card.

Lol.
 
That meant nothing to me, so not sure if that throws positive or negative light on the card.

Lol.

Don't get me wrong there are some very high spec components on that card. But I've become a bit fussy about that last 5-10% performance and subjective impression since getting into the audio electronics side a bit has a hobby.
 
Don't get me wrong there are some very high spec components on that card. But I've become a bit fussy about that last 5-10% performance and subjective impression since getting into the audio electronics side a bit has a hobby.

Cool. Well I'll report back how I get on when it's delivered tomorrow. I've already disabled my knackered onboard.
 
Don't get me wrong there are some very high spec components on that card. But I've become a bit fussy about that last 5-10% performance and subjective impression since getting into the audio electronics side a bit has a hobby.

I wish there was someone out there that had a range of soundcards going back 10 - 15 years to compare to the present and with those that had swappable opamps to test. Just to see how they all compare and for gaming.
 
this thing is unbelievable. the sound is so realistic, feels so natural. I noticed it immediately and was so shocked I had to re-enable my onboard and listen through that.

My mobo is almost 5 years old I guess...but was top tier at the time. But the difference is magnitudes greater I doubt new mobos sound this good.

Certainly happy. Oh yeah, talking about the ae-5 not the gsx. forgot I derailed this thread. sorry
 
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Whelp - took me 6 hours to get the AE-5 outputting to headphones :( old issue with Realtek software from awhile back hosed something audio wise on my Windows install and I didn't want to reinstall just for one little issue - I managed to work around it with my X-Fi by forcing the headphone device to exist as a separate entity but same work around point blank refused to work on the AE-5 so a lot of dabbling with repairing registry and system files by hand got headphone detection working properly.

wow. just wow.
never will I use on board again.

I know right :D - onboard might have the on paper stats these days but almost every implementation just sounds dry and lifeless. The AE-5 is very clear and punchy in comparison.

As an aside - I disabled everything in the Connect engine - some might be useful for certain things but I like my audio free of that level of processing for the most part but some people's tastes will vary. (EDIT: Having a play they do work fairly well when using mainstream/gaming headphones without too much in the way of negatives from things like surround effects though I still wouldn't use them when listening to music with higher end headphones).

Now for the real (non-gaming) test - will it drive my HD600s to a level of performance I consider acceptable.

EDIT: To be fair they do very well at driving the 600s - better than probably 99% of devices in this class - managing to combine both volume and some control over the drivers with some pretty decent depth to the sound - but let go a little in the bass at times and as I was unsurprised to find with the LM4562s the treble is a bit cold and intense - which isn't a bad thing for gaming type purposes where it makes the soundscape clearer and easier to pick out individual sounds positionally but isn't pleasing to listen to in a musical context especially when paired up with headphones like these.
 
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