GT3 vs E92 M3 vs GT-R Autocar Video!

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[TW]Fox;11162391 said:
Compared with a Porsche 911 GT3. Which doesn't mean it sucks balls any more than the fact a BMW M5 is better than an Audi S3 doesnt mean the S3 'sucks balls'.
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Not just a Porsche, a nissan, yes, a nissan. Ok its the GT-R, but still, why are the brakes so shockingly bad?

Fair enough though, I'd like to see the porsche round that track with standard brakes too.
 
The M3's brakes have always been a week point when pushed, they were on the E46 and they still are on the E92. The cars used for the road tests when it came out were running competition pads I believe.
 
Am I supprised it won? Nope, I remember the Skyline mullering the competition around the ring which included 355, Porsche and the like 1996 or something in the Top Gear mag. Good job Nissan :)
 
i have to admit i liked his review. very honest interview considering his was the M3 lol.

when you think he's driven the M3 a heck of a lot more than either the Porsche or the GT-R it just goes to show how much better than the M3 the porsche is and in turn the GT-R over the porsche.
 
He is a legend! He really knows his stuff, and how to drive to. Nissan is easily going to be one of the greatest cars of the decade, of not more. M3's brakes were a little worreying, but then I guess thats why so many CSL E46's have had their brakes upgraded for track use.
 
Very good review.

Have to admit that the Skyline technically looks awesome, & you cannot argue with the performance.

However, it is clinical. This is something I notice with the DSG in my car, it does what it does amazingly well as you would expect. But it does leave you feeling somewhat detached from the driving experience.

The 911, whilst I have never had the pleasure of driving one, does seem to be by far the more driver oriented choice. Speed, relative of course! is not always everything.

Would be nice to have the choice though!
 
Butters said:
Just goes to show that the new M3 does in fact suck balls, and his face when he realised HIS car wasn't going to stop! classic!

The nissan is great, but for me, it would have to be the porsche.
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since when did the e92 m3 ever suck balls. Its not really a fair comparison. an out an out 911 track racer, vs a daily driver coupe. :rolleyes:
 
whatleytom said:
since when did the e92 m3 ever suck balls. Its not really a fair comparison. an out an out 911 track racer, vs a daily driver coupe. :rolleyes:
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lol an M3 is not a daily driver coupe. it's a daily driver coupe with performance enhancing add-ons to make it a much more capable coupe. it's a grand tourer rather than daily driver coupe.
 
housemaster said:
Having now watched the two videos above I would say this...

I think the Nissan is like each and every new Skyline before it in that it moves the game on in terms of its use of technology, its breadth of abilities and its performance. As a road car I think you would stuggle to find a quicker A to B machine today, but then like every other Skyline I think once the initial hype has died down its lack of 'event' or 'purity', though somewhat subjective perhaps, will be its weakness.

I was actually suprised how little gap there was to the GT3, I expected the Nissan to be MUCH quicker in that situation, which I think was a great test actually. Get in, one warm up, one quick lap and in. In such a situation I suspect most people would be much quicker in the Nissan and be much closer to exploiting its abilities due to the cleverness of its design. I am a GT3 fan of course, so perhaps have a less than objective perspective, but I don't think I would want to spend £60K on that car when I could have a 996 GT3 RS and would never consider cancelling my order for the Mk2 GT3 because of how quick the Nissan is, or how better a road car it may well be.

You see I don't really care how much quicker the Nissan is than a GT3 because it will NEVER be close to a GT3 in terms of the fun it provides on a Sunday morning, the challenge it offers the driver or the sheer feel it provides, Chris Harris reflected that I think, and I suspect (and hope) the Mk2 GT3 will move the game on again. To many this will mean far less than its outright pace and on this point the Nissan is simply astonishing, but to many of us its more important. Amzing bit of kit mind, and I suspect on this forum and many others it will be simply the best car out there and even in my eyes for the money its astonishing!
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I think its pretty impressive that a large 4 seater coupe that is over 400kgs heavier than a track focused Porsche is actually quicker :)

For the price difference the GT3 and Skyline you could have the Nissan for daily driving and something totally focused for the Sunday morning blat.
 
I really like this guy, his reviewing style is perfect for this sort of thing.

And Mmmmmmmm @ the GTR.

I'd choose it without even thinking over the other two cars. It's the kind of car that would get a lot of respect on the road, whereas the Porsche + BMW would just be hassle.

No-one would let you out etc... :D
 
I wonder if Nissan will do a lightweight extreme version of the GTR, similar to the GT3 compared to the 911.
 
ethos said:
I really like this guy, his reviewing style is perfect for this sort of thing.
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Chris Harris is a legend - his presenting style isnt that great but this is becuase he is a car enthusiast and a writer, not a TV presenter, so I'm happy to forgive him that.

The stuff he writes for Autocar is excellent, infact to be honest Autocar is probably the most trustworthy and professional car mag out there.
 
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