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GTX 1060 Vs RX 480 - head to head showdown

Griffildur said:
How long have you used that 960 and how long has it served you well?

The fact that only now some other card is better makes no difference. Nobody cares that in several years from now, this or that will be better. By then we will get other things.

Get something good to last you for years and perform well in everything not in just one game, nobody cares about promises of good things to come at some unspecified point in the future. We have games to play in the meanwhile!
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I am avoiding games like The Division because of the poor performance of the GTX960 - I bought mine less than a year ago.

I avoided ARK at Christmas when the game ran so bad - my mates R9 280 was faster and then asked another mate with a GTX960 to do the same and it was no different. FFS,an R9 280 in a Nvidia title.

Its irrelevant - both of them have never owned midrange cards apart from any benchmarking.

My GTX660 I was happy with - the HD7870 has outlasted it but the GTX960 performance has not lasted.

I spend £100 to £175 on cards and I have never had an issue for years staying in that price-range.

FFS,my mates old crap HD7870XT gets a boost from Vulkan - its a blasted shambles and excuse makers like those two mean Nvidia will never bother to fix performance.

That is the issue both of them make jibes about DX12/Vulkan and yet despite all that crap,Nvidia still has not released a functioning Vulkan driver for a Maxwell card despite boasting about since February.

Like their async driver for Maxwell that will probably never come anytime soon.

Everybody makes jibes about AMD performance,etc but goodness grief we should never criticise subpar DX12 or Vulkan performance in Nvidia products and that is in blasted games THEY sponsor or with devs THEY ARE CLOSE TO.

The worst thing is the RX480 is somewhat unpolished and more expensive than I expected it to be,and the GTX1060 is probably going to look fail within 12 months,and for either I would be spending the most I ever spent on a card and none of my mates have ever gone over £250 either.

In the end neither seem that great now - just going to use this blasted card until it implodes,and avoid games where I can.

At that point I expect I will have to spend £300 and decide between one of them considering the rate at which the pound is going.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I am avoiding games like The Division because of the poor performance of the GTX960 - I bought mine less than a year ago.

I avoided ARK at Christmas when the game ran so bad - my mates R9 280 was faster and then asked another mate with a GTX960 to do the same and it was no different. FFS,an R9 280 in a Nvidia title.

Its irrelevant - both of them have never owned midrange cards apart from any benchmarking.

My GTX660 I was happy with - the HD7870 has outlasted it but the GTX960 performance has not lasted.

FFS,my mates old crap HD7870XT gets a boost from Vulkan - its a blasted shambles and excuse makers like those two mean Nvidia will never bother to fix performance.

That is the issue both of them make jibes about DX12/Vulkan and yet despite all that crap,Nvidia still has not released a functioning Vulkan driver for a Maxwell card despite boasting about since February.

Like their async driver for Maxwell that will probably never come anytime soon.

Everybody makes jibes about AMD performance,etc but goodness grief we should never criticise subpar DX12 or Vulkan performance in Nvidia products and that is in blasted games THEY sponsor or with devs THEY ARE CLOSE TO.

The worst thing is the RX480 is somewhat unpolished and more expensive than I expected it to be,and the GTX1060 is probably going to look fail within 12 months.

In the end neither seem that great - just going to use this blasted card until it implodes.
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I can sympathise with your situation. 960 with 2 gb of memory was bound to start showing weaknesses, i'd think. r9 280 seems to have 3gb. Up until I got the 1080 I used a 970 with 4 gb and it performed quite well to be honest. I game at 1440p. So yeah, I think it's the memory more than anything.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
And then like my GTX660(against the HD7870) and GTX960(and the HD7870) performance goes down the pan and its why from trading blows with a R9 380,the GTX960 now gets thrashed Gameworks titles like The Division.
:D

Plus after trying Doom under Vulkan and the fact OpenGL works better - LMAO. That is from Bethesda and iD who are close to Nvidia,like Ubisoft was with The Division.

I expected some performance degradation with my GTX960 4GB against a R9 380. Happening within nine months was a record.

It was a bloody joke when sodding ARK ran better on my mates R9 280 at Christmas.

But I suppose that is why some of you tend to spend £400+ on cards,right?? None of you actually game on cheaper cards and its bloody annoying poorly my card has aged against the R9 380 and I suspect some of you made similar jibes against it then too.

:p

Plus, where is the async driver for my GTX960 - I am still waiting for months now.

Edit!!

It gets better:

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/02/16/vulkan-graphics-api/



They said that in February - apparently not ready yet??

You want to tell me when it is ready??

So no async driver for Maxwell yet??

No Vulkan driver yet??

Yet apparently AMD got one out for Doom??

From the pro-AMD developers id and Bethesda.

That is why Nvidia was boasting about Doom when showing off the GTX1080.

Oh,but you knew that right?

LMAO,but lets make excuses for Nvidia.
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Chill out bud. You could probably fetch a few quid for your 960 and wouldn't have to put much to a 480 or something.
 
Griffildur said:
I can sympathise with your situation. 960 with 2 gb of memory was bound to start showing weaknesses, i'd think. r9 280 seems to have 3gb. Up until I got the 1080 I used a 970 with 4 gb and it performed quite well to be honest. I game at 1440p. So yeah, I think it's the memory more than anything.
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Mine is a 4GB OC model!! It runs something like 140MHZ(sometimes more) over minimum boost. That is what got me. This is why all these jibes for them are just annoying - I am sorry when people with cards which are quite fast already start saying Vulkan/DX12 is irrelevant its annoying.

Someone buying a £250 card,especially a gamer, don't suddenly ditch their card in a year or so.

Two or three years is where it is,at least for the people like me who own those cards. My GTX660 lasted me over two years fine and this card apparently is started to age much quicker than that.

It really has made me think twice whether I want to get another Nvidia 60 series card.

That longevity is important and cards like the GTX460 were bloody awesome.

But it does not help the RX480 was probably not quite there too.

I am seriously thinking of whether the second generation midrange cards are a better bet now.

But that is going to be at least a year or more away.

Edit!!

Maybe I will wait six months and see how both cards fare.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Mine is a 4GB OC model!! It runs somethink like 140MHZ(sometimes more) over minimum boost. That is what got me. This is why all these jibes for them are just annoying - I am sorry when people with cards which are quite fast already start saying Vulkan/DX12 is irrelevant its annoying.

Someone buying a £250 card,especially a gamer,not enthusiasts like them who change their cards quicker than their underwear,don't suddenly ditch their card in a year or so.

Two or three years is where it is,at least for the people like me who own those cards. My GTX660 lasted me over two years fine and this card apparently is started to age much quicker than that.

It really has made me think twice whether I want to get another Nvidia 60 series card.

That longevity is important and cards like the GTX460 were bloody awesome.

But it does not help the RX480 was probably not quite there too.

I am seriously thinking of whether the second generation midrange cards are a better bet now.

But that is going to be at least a year or more away.
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the 660 was quite a good one. I had a 660 TI for about 3 years. damn good card. I like my cards to last as well, not become irrelevant after 1 year.
 
ok, I just figured out how to decide once and for all which card is better.

We create a gaming club, talk over slack, have a Green and Red team and battle it out in Doom multiplayer. You know what they say ... make love not war ... screw it, make war! At least we can take it out on each other. Any takers? :D
 
Griffildur said:
ok, I just figured out how to decide once and for all which card is better.

We create a gaming club, talk over slack, have a Green and Red team and battle it out in Doom multiplayer. You know what they say ... make love not war ... screw it, make war! At least we can take it out on each other. Any takers? :D
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Count me in but I don't think many AMD owners have this game lol :D
 
Griffildur said:
the 660 was quite a good one. I had a 660 TI for about 3 years. damn good card. I like my cards to last as well, not become irrelevant after 1 year.
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Also looking at the GTX1060 PCB,it looks like there is space for more VRAM,so would not surprise me if a 256 bit version or a GP104 based one comes out as a TI or midlife refresh. Also apparently some hints we might see an RX485 next year looking at the naming system.

Think I might just have to hold off for a while - Mass Effect Andromeda is out next year and I will see how both vendors cards will do,especially if both companies refresh their ranges a bit.

I am not against another 60 series card,but the DX12/Vulkan performance is a concern for me - if I spend £250 I want that card to last two years at least. Remember last year,a GTX960 4GB was a £150 card.

Maybe I will have just to wait and see,and I expect card prices will rise! :(
 
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Griffildur said:
ok, I just figured out how to decide once and for all which card is better.

We create a gaming club, talk over slack, have a Green and Red team and battle it out in Doom multiplayer. You know what they say ... make love not war ... screw it, make war! At least we can take it out on each other. Any takers? :D
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UT4.
 
Griffildur said:
I can sympathise with your situation. 960 with 2 gb of memory was bound to start showing weaknesses, i'd think. r9 280 seems to have 3gb. Up until I got the 1080 I used a 970 with 4 gb and it performed quite well to be honest. I game at 1440p. So yeah, I think it's the memory more than anything.
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Seriously you went from a 970 to a 1080? :eek: How'd that work?

Did you down-clock it to 1000MHz and gradually ramp up the performance in order to avoid FPS-shock?
 
akarypid said:
Seriously you went from a 970 to a 1080? :eek: How'd that work?

Did you down-clock it to 1000MHz and gradually ramp up the performance in order to avoid FPS-shock?
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yes, I just wanted a really good card which will last a while and be good for 4k and VR. Ok, it may not be enough for perfect 4k but it's as good as it gets at this point in time.

I might sell it and buy a 1080 TI, if it's not very expensive. The point is that I want it to last me at least 3 years in which time I can game at best quality. It's as simple as that.
 
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Jono8 said:
It looks like the custom 1060's overclock better

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/27.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/

15% overclock on the 1060 compared with 3% on the Rx480

Those power consumption numbers are not that great on the 480 strix either. It pulls 32w more than a 1070 in the "typical gaming" scenario and 11 watts more than 1080!
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Already been proven on a few sites that the 480 Strix is a piece of junk, the damn cooler does not even fit correctly, so carry on cherry picking away in favour of the 1060, i can easily do the same for the 480 Nitro cards....
 
so at this point in time we can see that both companies have work to do.

Nvidia needs to do more work related to DX12, they can afford to wait though as there are not enough titles around to warrant it plus they have the raw power to just deal with it anyway. They have the efficiency, temperatures and raw power nailed.

AMD does better on the DX12 side but seems to have huge issues in balancing raw power, temperatures and power consumption so a lot more work ahead.

Let's see who moves next and what that move is.
 
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