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GTX 295 - HUGE input lag in crysis and tf2 HEEEELP!!
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up2nogooduk seems to suggest he had the same sort of problems but not with other cards. ive also not read anything about others having such problems. i spent a crapload of money on this with a view to not having to touch it for the next 3 years and right now its seeming like the most expensive part of the pc is also the worst part.
ive tried it on my old 19" and this lp2475w, more or less the same on both with the cap on so i cant blame the monitor.
ive tried it on my old 19" and this lp2475w, more or less the same on both with the cap on so i cant blame the monitor.
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No one has mentioned it but is your PSU up to the job?
Anandtech has an interesting article on Triple Buffering:
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3591&p=2
Most interesting is this:
"In other words, with triple buffering we get the same high actual performance and similar decreased input lag of a vsync disabled setup while achieving the visual quality and smoothness of leaving vsync enabled."
Perhaps there is a way you can force this?
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3591&p=2
Most interesting is this:
"In other words, with triple buffering we get the same high actual performance and similar decreased input lag of a vsync disabled setup while achieving the visual quality and smoothness of leaving vsync enabled."
Perhaps there is a way you can force this?
im actually starting to wonder if its related to sli and these crappy nvidia drivers. ive tried about 5 different drivers now from 181 to the new 190's. there are very irritating problems in tf2 and a bunch of other games in the current 186 and the 185 drivers and aside from the games, i end up with a black background in windows when exiting the games! the 181's screw up windows 7, the 182.08 dont work at all, 182.50 work slightly better but still screw up the background in windows. and the 190's just pretty much cut the framerate in half (for the love of god how much testing does it take to notice the fps is half what it was BEFORE releasing a beta?!?). i wouldnt mind but christ these cards are hardly new now, you'd think they would have got it right by now.
starting to come to the conclusion nvidia are simply incapable of producing good drivers.
im stuck with 182.50 as they seem about the best of a bad bunch at the moment.
edit: nope that crashed on me so back to the dodgy 186.18
starting to come to the conclusion nvidia are simply incapable of producing good drivers.
im stuck with 182.50 as they seem about the best of a bad bunch at the moment.
edit: nope that crashed on me so back to the dodgy 186.18
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User error tbh
Theres a slight performance decrease with 190 but its to the order of 5-10% not 50%.
186.18 aside from a couple of video playback issues have been the most stable and high performing drivers I've seen in awhile.
If nvidia drivers were really that bad... you would see the ATI crowd crowing all over these forums.
EDIT: You've already made your mind up by the sound of it so I'd just return the card and get a 4890 seeing as thats the direction your obviously preferring really.
Theres a slight performance decrease with 190 but its to the order of 5-10% not 50%.
186.18 aside from a couple of video playback issues have been the most stable and high performing drivers I've seen in awhile.
If nvidia drivers were really that bad... you would see the ATI crowd crowing all over these forums.
EDIT: You've already made your mind up by the sound of it so I'd just return the card and get a 4890 seeing as thats the direction your obviously preferring really.
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If its any consolation, I have a nvidia 9600GT and with vsync on I get horrible input lag. After reading a bit, I think its not the GPU's fault, but rather the monitor - vsync seems to exacerbate the input lag of current LCD screens. My samsung T200 is meant to have an average input lag of 30ms if I remember correctly, and yet with vsync off I cannot tell. But turn vsync on and I can see how they came to that number.
However, with vsync off, I dont have a line going up my screen. I do sometimes get the odd flickering effect which is common with vsync off (even on CRTs) and the fps running out of sync with the monitor i.e. if monitor refresh rate is 60, an fps of 100 for example looks juddery. I think that line maybe something to do with that specific graphics card you have as its a dual GPU solution on one board.
However, with vsync off, I dont have a line going up my screen. I do sometimes get the odd flickering effect which is common with vsync off (even on CRTs) and the fps running out of sync with the monitor i.e. if monitor refresh rate is 60, an fps of 100 for example looks juddery. I think that line maybe something to do with that specific graphics card you have as its a dual GPU solution on one board.
^^^ This.
Something i had to adapt to as when i went from an ATI X800XT PE w/ v-sync to my (old) 8800Ultra i had to disable v-sync as there was more input lag and uncap the fps as i would get the annoying band/scan effect (this was with both my 75Hz 17" and my current 60Hz NEC monitor).
Judging by your reply to the above quote you don't want to know what is actual fact and as unfortunate as it is, in this day and age it does happen.
In short, yes. The less fps you get from the refresh rate the less of an effect it has and the more fps you get you will find the screen tears rather than a scan/band line. I had this at certain points in both Crysis and Warhead and other releases from the past 2 years.
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Try 185.85's, they've been perfect for me.
Also, nVidia driers are not that bad, so I'm going with Rroff and saying "User error tbh"
Also, nVidia driers are not that bad, so I'm going with Rroff and saying "User error tbh"
lol "user error", clueless much? yeah im a noob that has never seen the inside of a pc before let alone played one of these games.
id love an explanation of how user error even comes into it when its a case of double click a driver install, reboot, double click a game icon, watch fps sitting on half what it was. lol
perhaps you should take your head out of the sand and look around, amazingly there are actually other people with these cards and drivers, and even more amazingly, they dont actually play the same games as you. wow, shocker.
id love an explanation of how user error even comes into it when its a case of double click a driver install, reboot, double click a game icon, watch fps sitting on half what it was. lol
perhaps you should take your head out of the sand and look around, amazingly there are actually other people with these cards and drivers, and even more amazingly, they dont actually play the same games as you. wow, shocker.
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I will take it as user error as you failed to mention anything regarding un-installing old drivers 
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If you are going to get stressy, then you will quickly find people stop helping.
(And FYI, I play TF2 aswell)
.If you are going to get stressy, then you will quickly find people stop helping.
(And FYI, I play TF2 aswell
)Click Enable SLI, Apply... FPS doubles!
(and yes I'm saying that tongue in cheek - I don't really think your that thick - just I don't see other people making as much of a meal of the drivers as your seeming to have so it sounds more like user error to me than anything else).