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GTX 670 isn't an option.

I know what you mean i wasnt trying to crown it fully, but out of 10 setups it coming top is still a good sign for it, like wise is your benches but both cards are overkill anyways.

And yes the games are developed with certain cards so that effects it, then drivers but for £1000 machine id pick a 7970 over a 670 what would you pick? Dont say sli 680s lol.

A 7950 and clock the proverbials off it and maybe add another :)
 
My point was its a fixed choice lol 7970 or 670 and yes i agree drivers have changed everything now so its a bit pointless.

And if 1x 7850 can come close to a 580 performace it should do well and 2x if i need it.

How much did u play for your rig altogether greg?

Also the rigs for £1000 were not reachable if u bought part for part, thats how they were such amazing deals. Wasnt PC planet either lol, but all the big names were in it.
 
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My point was its a fixed choice lol 7970 or 670 and yes i agree drivers have changed everything now so its a bit pointless.

And if 1x 7850 can come close to a 580 performace it should do well and 2x if i need it.

How much did u play for your rig altogether greg?

He paid so much that he had to emigrate as the bailiff's were constantly at his door. :D
 
My point was its a fixed choice lol 7970 or 670 and yes i agree drivers have changed everything now so its a bit pointless.

And if 1x 7850 can come close to a 580 performace it should do well and 2x if i need it.

How much did u play for your rig altogether greg?

Also the rigs for £1000 were not reachable if u bought part for part, thats how they were such amazing deals. Wasnt PC planet either lol, but all the big names were in it.

I have never added it up and don't intend on but it cost me a fair chunk of my savings and had to buy the wife a holiday and new bedroom furniture :p

Yes, they only charge £40 an hour to run security essentials if you have a virus, bargain :D

Crazy and people go there I expect :(
 
Well one time when i was 14 i went to PC world and they sold me a bundle with a x800pro thing that bundle i was telling you about above^^ with the crappy ati card lol.

Anyways i had so low fps and unable to play most games i took it back and they couldnt tell me the problem, i didnt know back then either but it should have been obvious that it was the crap card :\

Goes to show most retailers have NO CLUE!

That is bad greg i think your much older then me though you said your kids have left home, so atleast 40+? And all your savings? **** me man atleast your wife LET you buy it in the first place.
 
No mate my Kids haven't left home yet but yes I am over 40 and no, not all my savings. My wife and I went with out for years and now it is our time :) Both my Girls work, and have no need of my hard earned money any more and the old saying "you can't take it with you" springs to mind :)
 
How in anyway is it offensive to what i said? I asked a question thats it. If you old people are gonna moan about it tell me to shut up :| LOL

No im 25 so not so young and if i spent anything over 400 on my pc the wife would go mental the 7850 i just bought she hasnt got a clue! Best keep it this way nothing but leeches!
 
I like how the OP tells us to discuss something without actually contributing himself.
I was always planning on coming back, i had sleep and work to attend to.
This has turned into quite the thread, bit of a can of worms i've opened.

I was planning on buying a GTX670 in a few weeks, and although this was in no way supposed to be a "spec me a GPU" thread, its kinda turned into one for me.
I've not been a PC gamer in quite some time, so all the comparisons to price and relative performance on previous generation cards means little to me, you say the 670 is overpriced, but to me, that's just how much it is (not sure if that makes sense.)
I've found myself asking why i'd decided on a 670. Partly PhysX and CUDA. Partly because as someone said, 9 out of 10 gaming rigs have 670's in.
The price of the ATI cards and the current free games have me tempted there way, but talk of driver problems put me off. Although if i'm reading right, has this been solved now?

Go for the 7970 and get a cheap 8800GTX for Physx. Tommybhoy will advise better on this :)

I didn't realise this was possible, very interesting as i have a 9800GTX. I could get a 7970 and still use PhysX. Although i imagine as its not officially supported, it could be problematic.

GTX 670 is a great card if you only want a single nVidia card.

Two of these in SLi has got to be the best current nVidia bang for buck:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-174-MS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2379

This is an interesting thought, but i think the idea is flawed, you leave yourself no upgrade path, other than selling up and starting again.

Anyway, what a great read for me on returning from work. What a great forum!
 
I'm 34 and not married. Instead of spending £5k on a wedding, I told the Mrs I would rather spend it on a new car (newer anyway), a holiday and a new PC. She agreed :D
 
How in anyway is it offensive to what i said? I asked a question thats it. If you old people are gonna moan about it tell me to shut up :| LOL

No im 25 so not so young and if i spent anything over 400 on my pc the wife would go mental the 7850 i just bought she hasnt got a clue! Best keep it this way nothing but leeches!

Grow some nuts. :D

I keep my disposable income separate as we earn vastly different amounts. She knows if I want to spend £2k on a PC (which is about right in total) then it's all good.
 
I'm 34 and not married. Instead of spending £5k on a wedding, I told the Mrs I would rather spend it on a new car (newer anyway), a holiday and a new PC. She agreed :D

Lol he has it sorted!

And you cant win vrs woman i have a 2 year old also so if i buy myself something i have to buy her and him the same or atleast a present.

Im not greedy or anything and spoil them both but what they dont know wont hurt them LOL!
 
Lol he has it sorted!

And you cant win vrs woman i have a 2 year old also so if i buy myself something i have to buy her and him the same or atleast a present.

Im not greedy or anything and spoil them both but what they dont know wont hurt them LOL!

Absolutely mate. I have a 2 year old as well and we decided a last holiday without children and a decent car were more important than a wedding :)

When you get a bit more experienced like us, you learn to organise the deliveries to come in when she's at work so she doesn't find out ;)
 
You're still missing the point regarding price a little. It makes no difference to people who've already bought the cards which is why diagonal comparisons are only useful for recommendations only with graphics cards.

Not sure how to be any clearer - price matters if I was buying or recommending now but it doesn't matter when LtMatt and I are comparing our cards in the MoHW bench which we're going to do.

Price does matter though, regardless of whether you've already bought or not.

Price determines what the competition is, not performance. You are taking it upon yourself to decide what the competition is so it fits in with how you want to view things.

Since you've already bought, it seems pointless wanting to constantly compare your card to other manufacturer's cards anyway because as you've said, you've already bought it.
 
"Best card for the price" isn't the same as "Best card for you" - it's all about individual needs.

I had bought 3x AMD Radeon HD7950 3GB cards without hesitation IF they had PhysX and CUDA support.
I have a really hard time seeing when I ever will go back to AMD, which frankly I'm saddened about since I really like the card.s The last ones I had were HD5970,HD5850,HD5830.
I just can't give up on PhysX...

You can't give up on PhysX? You haven't even been given the chance to embrace it yet, barely any games even use it, it's not really something you should be basing your purchasing decision on. However, you'd still get more performance for your money by buying a 7950 and a cheap nVidia card for PhysX than getting a GTX670.

GTX 670 is high-end ?!:confused:



That's not true and you know that. Don't go bash people saying PhysX isn't a valid argument it is ! it's just a matter of personal preference. I very much enjoy the PhysX based games.

You do understand that saying PhysX isn't a valid argument is also personal preference? Maybe you only consider personal preference to be a valid argument when it's in agreement with what you think?

Objectively, there's very little worth in PhysX because there's very few games that even use it properly, and the ones that do use it to any extent, they do so at the expense of overall performance.

What is subjective is whether that matters to you, and whether you're happy to pay £60-80 more for less performance just for PhysX, which will reduce performance even more.

So they were reviewing "rigs" and all the rigs were the same apart from the GPU? Doesn't sound like a rig review at all. I think you're making it up as you go along :D.

I'll leave this in here:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18451929

End user benchmarks rather than loose heresay based on not a lot of fact :)

Don't you just wish people would stop referring to computers as "rigs"?
 
Price does matter though, regardless of whether you've already bought or not.

Price determines what the competition is, not performance. You are taking it upon yourself to decide what the competition is so it fits in with how you want to view things.

Since you've already bought, it seems pointless wanting to constantly compare your card to other manufacturer's cards anyway because as you've said, you've already bought it.

"Price determines what the competition is" - yes if you're buying it does. What you have said after then doesn't really follow on from your initial point. Competition for what exactly?

What I was comparing is the performances of the cards as they fit into each companys hierarchy. It matters because because that's what I'm interested in. And for that price doesn't matter. You're also not accounting for the fact price changes (quite dramatically) over time which is also why price is only really useful when buying/recommending.

Anyway there's no point debating it - that's how I compare when looking at post purchase performance; you may do it differently.
 
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