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GTX 780 Lightning VS. R9 290X Lightning @ 1080p

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Yeah. The only criticism (and it's an old one so I apologise in advance) is the ruddy cooler they shipped them with :p.

The charts could have looked a lot better for AMD with a better cooling solution. Obviously custom coolers have completely changed that but unfortunately doesn't change a lot of the day 1 reviews which are there when you google for a 290/X review.


No argument from me, those reference coolers could should have been better. they are a big mistake.
 
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No argument from me, those reference coolers could should have been better. they are a big mistake.

As I dont like Aftermarket coolers, this would be the only thing stopping me buying what is otherwise an awesome card.



Rusty's first post in this thread was to deride the work Rtsurfer and Face2Face did because it wasn't top vs top tier. Completely missing the point they guys could only test what they had available.

Hang on one sec whilst I just bench my 780 v's my 7970, its what i have available :D
 
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Lol i hope that's sarcasm judging by how close the 290X and 780TI are in that video.. :p 290 cards have had a nice performance boost in Crysis 3 since that video as well. :)

Of course, and that is why I have Msi gaming 290 . :)

Why pay 150+ for little performance benefit. Better with 290 crossfire to blow a single Ti out of the water.
 
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Hang on one sec whilst I just bench my 780 v's my 7970, its what i have available :D

By all means, go right ahead. I will actually read your results for what they are, i.e. a private owner taking his valuable time to post results on a forum. What I won't do is deride your results in a troll bait fashion.
 
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EDIT:Added clocks for GPU'S
R9 290 clock
1200/1600

780Ti's
Boost clocks
1219/3549


Posted this in another thread,my 2 cents

Well I can tell you I Ran 780TI SLI ,moved to R9 290 non-x Crossfire and I am perfectly happy.Also had R9 290X crossfire more of the same,sold 290x

For me all drivers have been great with Crossfire.No complaints.

Far as FPS gaming wise 780TI SLI and R9 290 crossfire I could not tell the difference in gameplay.

Far as benching goes they trade blows on the same machine.
EG:Valley run
R9 290 non-x crossfire and 780Ti SLI.

Valley_runs.jpg



R9 290 Single
r9290.jpg

AMD Radeon R9 290 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3770K Processor,MSI Z77A-GD65 (MS-7751)

780Ti single
780ti.jpg

MSI 780Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3770K Processor,MSI Z77A-GD65 (MS-7751)


R9 290 Crossfire run.
290.jpg

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/2833578


780Ti Sli run
780ti_firestrike.jpg

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1809031
 
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Some very nice scores there. Pretty much shows that anything over R9 290 will give similar performance. You need to have an FPS display in the corner of your screen to see the difference.

It has always been this way in GPUs though. The law of diminishing returns for you money, that's why the majority aim for a good price/perf ratio. For me the R9 290 and GTX780 are right at the sweetspot, with the R9 290 coming out slightly ahead.
 
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Some very nice scores there. Pretty much shows that anything over R9 290 will give similar performance. You need to have an FPS display in the corner of your screen to see the difference.

It has always been this way in GPUs though. The law of diminishing returns for you money, that's why the majority aim for a good price/perf ratio. For me the R9 290 and GTX780 are right at the sweetspot, with the R9 290 coming out slightly ahead.

I would be nice if there was a R9 290X2 at £650-700.
 
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Posted this in another thread,my 2 cents

Well I can tell you I Ran 780TI SLI ,moved to R9 290 non-x Crossfire and I am perfectly happy.Also had R9 290X crossfire more of the same,sold 290x

For me all drivers have been great with Crossfire.No complaints.

Far as FPS gaming wise 780TI SLI and R9 290 crossfire I could not tell the difference in gameplay.

Far as benching goes they trade blows on the same machine.
EG:Valley run
R9 290 non-x crossfire and 780Ti SLI.

You should add those scores to the Valley leaderboard with a screenshot, would put your setup in the top 15 so others can see the benefit of x fire 290's.
 
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Posted this in another thread,my 2 cents

Well I can tell you I Ran 780TI SLI ,moved to R9 290 non-x Crossfire and I am perfectly happy.Also had R9 290X crossfire more of the same,sold 290x

For me all drivers have been great with Crossfire.No complaints.

Far as FPS gaming wise 780TI SLI and R9 290 crossfire I could not tell the difference in gameplay.

Far as benching goes they trade blows on the same machine.
EG:Valley run
R9 290 non-x crossfire and 780Ti SLI.

Valley_runs.jpg



R9 290 Single
r9290.jpg

AMD Radeon R9 290 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3770K Processor,MSI Z77A-GD65 (MS-7751)

780Ti single
780ti.jpg

MSI 780Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3770K Processor,MSI Z77A-GD65 (MS-7751)


R9 290 Crossfire run.
290.jpg

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/2833578


780Ti Sli run
780ti_firestrike.jpg

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1809031

Thanks for posting.

What was your single non x 290 clocked at to get 11156 in firestrike and what overclock did you have on cpu?
 
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I would be nice if there was a R9 290X2 at £650-700.

To be honest I would think the price with that cooler and radiator would be closer to £780 - £800. If an 295X was released with good air cooling then £700 would be acceptable.

The fact that TitanZ is (was) aimed at gamers for $3000 does not make it OK for AMD R9 295X to cost $1500.
 
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Thanks for posting.

What was your single non x 290 clocked at to get 11156 in firestrike and what overclock did you have on cpu?

Sorry should have posted the actual clocks on the cards 3d Mark does not always get it correct,I will put it in the post.

R9 290 clock
1200/1600

780Ti's
Boost clocks
1219/3549
 
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Sorry should have posted the actual clocks on the cards 3d Mark does not always get it correct,I will put it in the post.

R9 290 clock
1200/1600

780Ti's
Boost clocks
1219/3549

Thanks. What's your cpu clocked to and how may volts extra did you need to reach 1200/1600?
 
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Thanks. What's your cpu clocked to and how may volts extra did you need to reach 1200/1600?

The GPU's are on air and I used to run them +200mV 24/7 but they can run same speeds with +150 but I started just running the cards at stock volts and 1075/1354 why I am not sure just a number I picked out one day.
Sapphire Tri-X 290
Reference XFX 290

CPU 3770K at 4600Mhz for 290/780Ti single runs

CPU 3770k at 4800Mhz for crossfire/SLI runs
 
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