Gun crime in the UK - law and controls

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Is firearm crime increasing in the United Kingdom?

I know there is a review of the law proposed. How does the Police and law control them?

Should there be less legal controls or even tighter controls.

I know there are some gendarmes on here, and gun owners, what type of guns are used in crime?

(I am studying the topic).
 
Wicked stuff, reading this thank you very much indeed to all posters.

Still unanswered, how does the Police and law control them? Police catch a fella with a gun in their car, they say it wasn't theirs. Do they have the tools they need to make prosecution worthwhile.

Should there be less legal controls or even tighter controls?
I had someone try to break into my house, if private householders could own guns I would feel safer? What would happen, would gun crime go up? Would burglary go down?

If I witnessed a robbery or a terrorist activity, would carry laws mean that more folk could pull out their pistol, and would the possibility of shooting the bad guy be a useful deterrent?

What type of guns are used in crime?
Antiques?
Home made
modified
Sawn off?
WW II
Army surplus?
Belt cutters :p

What is the weapon of choice for the UK crime mastermind?
 
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Wicked posts so far, thank you fellas.

I have heard shot gun owners are often business owners who want to own a gun in their home in case someone breaks in and tries to nick their Evoque/jewellery or nouveau rich-lad-conveyance.

Where do you stand - can you shoot the oik?

By they way I am not thinking of doing this, I own a vintage Webley 22 and pose no danger to the general public, certainly not any where near as much as your average farmer.

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Great stuff, my gun IQ is increasing.

I would like to own a gun, I could protect my home, family from ne'er do-wells. I agree with training and safe storage.

I have had an attempted break in once and it was frightening. Luckily they did not want to be seen and ran off.
 
Have been reading today and we have some really strict gun control laws, same as Australia.

The UK killed off sporting pistols. Yet violent gun crime has gone up in the UK - perhaps by disarming the general public.

Handguns > shotguns > air rifles > other guns - are used by the criminal fraternity.

I am ambivalent about tightening or relaxing the gun control laws. If I lived in the states I think I would consider owning a gun to protect my family. Self-defence.
 
Dunks said:
You really think banning sporting pistols has increased the amount of violent gun crime? :confused:
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You're right that was not very clear Prof Dunks, apologies, let me qualify what I read:

There was a paper by a Canadian Professor, suggests that our austere gun laws may have contributed to an increase in violent crime by disarming the general public.

Not sure I am in full agreement.

Page 3, under heading 'Britain'.
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/faildxprmt.pdf

Data on gun crime is fraught with problems, if you are robbed at gun point how do the police know if it was a replica, a decommissioned BAR, pointy fingers in their coat pocket or a Glock?

Surprised no one has mentioned 3D printed guns on this forum? Will your uber PC geek be printing off their favourite Call Of Duty gun?

Mine is a P90.
 
Boycey0211 said:
He talks about gun control, says that he agrees with current policy, then also says he needs a shotgun for 'self defence'.

He went beyond being taken seriously a while ago.
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Oh really, did I say that? You sure?

I bet you were a sniper on Call Of Duty Boycey. :D 50 cal for you! Bloody campers.


The issues here is with 3D printing - gun controls are obsolete. It would be the access to ammunition that would be critical.

How easy it is to access ammunition?
 
Boycey0211 said:
Which could just be directly linked to the population increase.

Actual stats show its dropped 5% in the last 10 years alone
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Not sure I follow you regarding population increase there Boyce. The Profs paper refers to incidence, not the population or ranking.

He also refers to the 1980's and 1990's.

Your talking about 2005 to 2015, the last 10 years.

What do you think about the 3D printer issue? Tell me what you think about that homes.
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Boycey0211 said:
The 3D printer issue is a non starter, it was tried and wasn't really that successful, as its still a bit of plastic at the end of the day, it was safe for one shot only and that was it.

In fact one of the test guns just exploded when the guy tried to fire it for the first time
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Haven't got the foggiest about the population issue to be honest.

Regarding 3D printing, I disagree, I think it will be an issue, I have had a brief look at the link I posted - they are selling the printer, the plans and you can making a working assault rifle out of metal with no serial markings.

No longer need a $500,000 industrial CNC printer..............cad files online. Pirate Bay anyone?
 
Longbow said:
It's a CNC milling machine, nothing new. They are providing the files to produce an AR-15 lower receiver, not an entire firearm. In the US all the other parts are unrestricted, over here the pressure bearing parts are restricted.

You have absolutely no idea what you're doing, and I hope for everyone's sake you are never issued with a firearms certificate.
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I think you are over-reaching a little LB.

Are you aware that I am researching here to write an essay, keep your hair on.

I am sticking with my Webley 22 for home defence. Sadly it's not gold, but it could be! ;)
 
Avenged7Fold said:
There are loads of ways to DIY arm yourself to what would be legally classed as a firearm. 3d printing is probably one of the stupidest ways.
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Sure, I agree. It is not a feature of criminal gun violence.

But 3D printing will become cheaper and easier in the future. Look at home PCs.
 
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