Gun crime in the UK - law and controls

jpod · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:59

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
And STILL useless without ammunition!

Are you suggesting that criminals are not going to have access to ammunition?

jpod · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:07

Avenged7Fold said:
It will be cheaper but it will never be of the quality to print out functional weaponry to withstand the forces it goes through under use.

Are you suggesting that these criminals have easier access to 3d printers and bullets (as well as the technical knowledge to calibrate and operate) than they do to guns and bullets?

I don't know but it is interesting perspective.

jpod · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:10

ttaskmaster said:
Then why not ask a firearms officer or a crime statistics collator or a solicitor or someone of that ilk, rather than here on a PC overclocking forum?

I'd love a P90 as much as the next man, but I'd not ask where to get one here, for example... and I kinda want one a little bit less, now.

Have you read the thread, forum buddies who are in the know have posted some great info in reply to my questions. Some clever folk on here.

jpod · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:21

Yeah, yeah...... I apologise for possessing a sense of humour.

I have found the law re legal ownership here.
http://basc.org.uk/firearms/changes-to-legislation/

If anyone knows any current issues about owning guns legally and the law - I would like to hear more.

I understand that there are some proposed changes to the UK law, it is expensive and takes a while, based on what I have read here.

jpod · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:45

Thank you for your advice TM, greatly appreciated.

Here is some info from the NCA for your viewing pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgAKvGJrbE4

jpod · 16 Oct 2015 at 18:16

Dolph said:
I see the usual statistically illiterate rubbish about gun crime is being posted. It wouldn't be so bad if such stupidity was not being used to support overly restrictive laws.

For gun legislation to be having a meaningful impact, the figures to look at are not gun crime figures. They tell you nothing useful. You need to look not at gun murders, but murders overall. If the gun bans had a beneficial effect. The overall murder rate will decrease. This hasn't happened in the UK, all that the gun ban did was change the murder weapon, it didn't stop people getting killed.

Unfortunately, we don't have enough protection in this country from idiotic populist law making, hence you get stupid pointless bans, much congratulatory back slapping and no benefit whatsoever rather than coherent, effective policy making.

Not sure I fully understand this Dolph, because the murder rate could be the same but violent crime didn't feature. How does that illustrate whether or not the gun laws are working.

Plus some victims may survive, they would have been victims of violent crime but not feature in the murder data.

Can you clarify.

NCA say that violent gun crime is reducing.

jpod · 16 Oct 2015 at 18:18

Edrof said:
If helps in any way, I own several deactivated firearms: a double-barrelled shotgun, a light machinegun, and two bolt-action rifles. If you're interested in any of them (how they are deactivated by the UK proofing house, for instance) just drop me a line.

I am interested, thanks. What is the UK proofing house?

Are they deactivated to a standard or is that voluntary?

Thanks

jpod · 17 Oct 2015 at 01:42

Edrof said:
There's a lot to say, so if I skip something let me know......................

Thanks for taking the time to post and pics too, awesome.

jpod · 17 Oct 2015 at 01:42

setter said:
As a shooter I would never want to pull the trigger on something banged together on a 3d printer. I value my face, body and hands. Thank god here in Europe we have proof houses that test guns beyond normal load. Loualist paramilitaries here used to make their own guns, mote dangerous to the shooter than the intended target.

Sports? Shotgun? Tell more.

jpod · 17 Oct 2015 at 16:55

Thanks Orionaut, five additional shots would be a considerable advantage. Black powder burns are written up as rare forensic findings in the contemporary scientific literature.

DXP55 and HybridX
I have reviewed your Slippery Slope link and I highly value for example HybridX's posts on the first page very much.

I have thanked folk throughout for their generous contributions, some took the time to load pics which is ace.

My first post clearly explains that I am researching for a dissertation.

If you personally perceive there is another motivation I can only apologise.

jpod · 23 Oct 2015 at 01:37

Why don't you dry up you big girl.
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This is the best link I have found on firearm law, there is a cracking 4-minute vid which will interest the genuine gun enthusiasts. Thanks to all those that posted their valuable insights, my first draft is complete.

http://www.lawcom.gov.uk/project/firearms/

jpod · 23 Sep 2016 at 08:55

Good news!

I was awarded my Forensic Medicine diploma by the Apothecaries Hall, London yesterday (I am a dentist not a doctor). I get to use the postnominal DipFMS.

I wish to express my gratitude to the genuine posters in this thread.

They rapidly increased my Firearm IQ when I asked for help and their insights helped shap a substantial portion of my essay.

Cheers