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Gutted with my new 460

greymack

greymack

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Hey guys

I asked a week or so about 460 v 470 and i was all in favour of the 460 because it was so much cooler and quieter, how wrong could i be :(
I bought the gainward GTX460 1GB GLH after a glowing review from custom pc. They rated the fan noise as "Is it on"
I have my pc in the bedroom and as soon as i stuck the 460 in the noise was unbearable, the wife said what's that ***** noise.

It's funny after getting the card i suddenly see all these people complaining about the noise of the fans :(

I want to return it but from what i've read another 460 (even a different make) will have the exact same problem, so the only solution i see is get a different make/model.
So is a 470 just as loud (I currently have a GTX260 Maxcore and it seems silent compared to the 460). Or maybe an ATI card.
Please guys any advice would be most welcome.
 
Just return it under the distance selling regulations and get a Gigabyte, MSI, or ASUS card - those three run silent and cool.

I did that with my Palit because of the fan noise (essentially the same make as Gainward) and I'm very happy with my silent Gigabyte GTX 460 OC.
 
It makes you wonder if these review sites get special samples sent to them. My previous Asus card was meant to be almost silent according to Tomshardwares review, and it was anything but.

The MSI GTX460 I have now is *very* quiet and gets my wholehearted recommendation :)
 
If you want a silent Fermi than that's not going to happen im afraid.

I suggest you get look at the ATI 5 Series range
 
Cheers guys but i got 3 replies which kinda conflict kmufc says it's always going to be noisy but you other two guys are happy with your gigabyte and msi.
I don't know if any of you read the custom pc revies but the gainward was voted the quietest, the gigabyte it stated was just fine and loud when overclocked, the MSI Cyclone was stated to be "is it on" meaning very quiet but that was for the 768mb version so not sure how it for 1gb.
 
Both versions of the msi will be the same noise and temps wise.

I currently have the Asus top, and its quiet upto 55% fan, then it becomes really noticeable over that.

But generally i have it running only at 25% fan and can't hear it basicly, but id still say get the msi or gigabyte. Im returning my card shortly, due to capacitor whine whilst Folding, it dos'nt whine in any game though, so if u just game no worries.

I kept going for the cheapest card i could at the time, big mistake on my part, should have just gotten the msi from the outset lol.
 
although they're the slightly faster cards at present for noise and heat you can't beat an ATI 5 series.

Example being my 5870. idles @ 33ºc @ 21% fan.

After a few hours gaming = 67ºc @ 25% fan.

at that speed you can't hear it and honestly wouldn't know it was in my case if i didn't have a window on the side of it :)
 
Unfortunately some cards are loud, even when they don't need to be, and AFAIK Nvidia, well to be fair, several of their partners sent out various sample versions, I forget which one, the Palit cards maybe, were reviewed with big fat heatsinks on the VRM's while the actual retail models didn't have them, I would assume this wil effect things like max overclocks as VRM's get VERY hot these days.

Gainward = the sucky balls frankly, gf3's, woo, they were great, gf4's whoops, from what I recall they had a ridiculous number of faulty GF4ti 200's if memory serves, and everyone seemed to have one that died, they went from easily the default choice(assuming similar price) to dissappeared, infact they really did dissappear for a long time, at least from the UK, and have been making a comeback in the last couple years. However, they don't offer anything different or better but they seem to want to trade on their old brand of being the best, which they simply aren't anymore.

Daft names, bad advertising, on top of that, I simply don't trust magazine reviews in general, to a large degree all internet review sites generate their income from advertising, from google and link clicking, to ad's paid for by the guys sending them samples to review........

Generally trust end user results, the vast majority say most of the 460gtx's are pretty quiet, MSI, Gigabyte, asus, they are all fine frankly, stock heatsink I'm not sure how good its supposed to be.

I would definately send yours back, but I'd hold off on a replacement, next month AMD bring out the 6770/6870/6850/etc, etc, at the very worst, the price of a MSI cyclone will drop so you get it cheaper, best case scenario, AMD's new cards are astonishing, and offer a ridiculous and surprising speed boost, in reality something somewhere in the middle is likely to happen. End of next month top end 460gtx's will be around the £150 mark, 460gtx 768's will be closer to £100, 5850's might get some silly end of life deals.

For the record, I'll say none of my AMD cards in ages have loud, except the 4870x2 under full load, that thing gets HOT with the stock cooling. 5850 is very quiet with the stock sink, it only got mildly not loud, I'm just fussy, when I had it heavily overclocked/volted.

Personally, if you HAD to buy today i'd be choosing between a 470gtx and 5850, and really I wouldn't have a preference, the 470gtx is a bit faster, its likely noisier but in a silly situation for Nvidia, almost all the review samples seemed to be faster than retail samples which didn't help them. Most people are finding in real gaming, and not furmark, the cards run at a decent volume, which makes the current 470gtx pricing pretty insanely good. Both the 470gtx and 5850 are significantly faster than a 460gtx and both overclock just as well/easily as a 460gtx, at £170 for a Cyclone, you're better off spending £30 for a 470gtx.
 
Depending on how noisey your case is otherwise an ambient noise the GTX470 is fairly quiet to the point you won't hear it above the PSU, etc. upto 65% fan - in most games especially with vysnc on you won't get the fan above 55% anyhow... however in the odd game, stress test or benchmark, poor case cooling or high ambient temps the fan will pickup above 65% and its is NOT quiet.

Same deal with the gainward really if it was tested in an air conditioned office with a low 20s ambient then it probably was quiet, if your using it in a bedroom or similiar especially in your average case it can quite easily be a very different story.

The MSI or gigabyte cards seem to be the best bet for quiet useage.
 
I have recently moved from a 5870 to an Asus 470. (fancied a change.)

The 470 is way louder. Running at 40% at idle I can hear it - the 5870 was quieter under load; I could hear it if I listened intently but otherwise nothing.

Most games have the Asus running at 50% fan or more and I can really hear it. Tried running Furmark once - I've no idea what fan speed it actually ran at - it just sounded like a vacuum cleaner.!:eek:

I do not regret moving to the Asus as the intention is to get the new zalman cooler thats due any time or to water cool and thereafter I'll be clocking it to see what it does.
BUT if I were looking to buy the quietest card it would be the 5870 and not the 470.

P.S. I left the fan settings on both cards on auto
 
If anyone want a quiet GTX460, they should get either a Gigabyte or MSI Cyclone; Gainward and Palit would have much higher chance to be loud because of their cost cutting coolers...

Any yea...it really annoying that the sample that reviewers receive are different (at least the cooler) from what we actually get from shops...
 
You clearly didn't read many user comments, a lot of people said the Gainward fans are loud. Essentially they are PALIT fans.
 
The palits/gainwards are not that loud, if you use a custom fan profile, they are loud if you use the auto fan.

Heck even my Asus 460 is loud if left on auto, but using a custom fan profile, i keep it quiet and still cools well enough, it really all depends on how good the bios fan profiles are for each card maker.
 
there is the odd dodgy card around. I picked up a "less than one month old" HIS 5770 off the MM and it ran stupidly hot (but stable), and hence noisy. It was on ebay before the end of the week. The replacement sapphire one i got has not made a single peep (bar upon startup and messing around with manual fan profiles XD) in the 2 months ive ran it.
 
Thanks for the comments guys
How do u set up a fan profile for a graphics card?
I know you can install expert tool and that has fan options, can u do it from there?

PS Just played battlefield bad company and the fan starts to get really whinny when playing, so it's going back just not sure whether to get gigabyte or msi.

Msi has one big fan right? and gigabyte 2?
 
Tbh all GTX 400 series cards are noisey, its fermi afterall. Some people can withstand noise better than others so to someone else the fan noise might be quiet but to another its unbearable.
 
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