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i would put the figures in front of your wife. the cost of running your vxr against something cheaper including the. fuel, servicing, the lot - i would expect the figure to speak for themselves. you are going to lose a fair wedge of money by choping it in unless you go for a bargain basement 10 year old car and its probably already been said but i wouldnt have thought youd make that money back very soon by running a cheaper car.

difficult situation to be in MrLOL.
 
BIG THUMB!

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That's the one :p and I wasn't meaning it in a harsh way, just that it was the first thing that came into my head upon reading the OP :D

Is there not the option of taking the map off and returning it to standard power?
 
The thing that concerns me is that if you get a new car, it is still possible something expensive might break, where will that leave you and the wife.

You need to sit down and have a calm discussion about her concerns and see if you can address her concerns without the hassle of losing money changing cars.

The car is a symptom of a problem, not the problem, you could well change your car and end up in the same position, so my advice would be to go to marriage guidance and resolve the issues, or you just might be facing the same problem in a few months, in a car you hate.

james.miller makes a good point, the financial loss of the change now may well be higher than keeping the car and modifying your driving behaviour.
 
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Then perhaps he needs to realise he doesn't have the cash to run this sort of car?

Seems to me this is the conclusion his Mrs has already arrived at, albeit from a female point of view! :D
 
There's a difference between driving it hard and driving it like a chav, imo.

2 sets of front tyres in 18 months says to me that you light the wheels up constantly.

:confused:
 
There's a difference between driving it hard and driving it like a chav, imo.

2 sets of front tyres in 18 months says to me that you light the wheels up constantly.

:confused:

I dont know ...

The scooby / clio would eat tyres like they were going out of fashion, if i got more than 6k out of a set of fronts id be pleased :o and i would be a liar if i said the car never wheelspun but that was only because i was driving it ****** hard :D
 
Sorry for the delay chaps, Not at home this weekend.

I stand corrected, firstly i thought the cg motorsport clutch was good, in theory it is, it drives well and once bedded in properly i feel it will hold the power well...



Thats as far as the good bits go! As soon as i got the car back the mechanic (peugeot mastertech) said the release bearing was noisey (a rattling noise that disappeared once the clutch was pressed down)...



I rang CG motorsport and they said its the gearbox (straight away diagnosis over the phone), being an apprentice mechanic myself and lots of mechanic friends i thought this was aloud of ********...



A day later i was driving along stood in traffic with the clutch down, and noticed a metallic chattering noise once the clutch was pressed down for more than a couple of seconds...



I talked to the mechanic who fitted it and he said it could possibly be a broken spring (which we both found highly unlikely), so i went down to CG motorsport in person this time.



They remembered our phonecall and instantly said again the rattling was the gearbox (bearing in mind there was no noise before the clutch was fitted) and they also said the metallic chattering was the clutch cable overstroking (bearing in mind the clutch cable was a brand new genuine item fitted at the same time).



They never actually gave me a proper answer as to why it was over stroking, leaving me with two options, wether it was the cable at fault or the clutch plate the wrong way round (and from experience ive always been taught if the clutch plate is fitted the wrong way round it wouldnt fit or not get a gear).



I then took it to them after the offered to set it up free of charge as they said it was the cable overstroking and got it back exactly the same. He said he altered the clutch cable as it was locked up but i cant see a new cable 'locking up'.



I then took it back today for them to solve the problem, and they welded a pedal stop onto the back of the clutch pedal.



IMHO, a brand new genuine clutch cable, genuine new flywheel and a brand new cg motorsport kit (designed for a 306 hdi) shouldnt need to be bodged with a pedal stop.



They said the only thing is that the plate is fitted the wrong way round and basically blaming the peugeot mastertech of fitting a clutch incorrectly. (as already stated, i find it hard to believe that a clutch plate can be fitted the wrong way round and drive perfectly fine, just chatter when held down for several seconds?)



Another problem i found, was once i was explaining the problems to the manager, he had an instant answer for every possible problem, and after reflecting on what was said later on that day, a lot of the statements he made contradicted themselves.



So, atm im in two minds as to get the gearbox out again and see what is actually causing the problem (and pay once again) or leave it with the bodged pedal stop and hope the clutch and gearbox lasts as long as it would usually (cg motorsport also said, even though the plate is the wrong way round, no harm will be done once the pedal stop is fitted?)



So imo, Dumdum says Helix' aftersales was poor, and i cannot comment on that, but that is my situation after CG motorsport, i am in no way saying they are a bad company, i just feel disheartened to reccomend them in any way after all the hassel i am having fitting new parts that should all work correctly.



Also, the paddle clutch is easy to drive and the pedal is light, yet after driving mikes car, i feel the genuine clutch kit with sachs plate has a lot less vibrations on takeoff and reverse.
 
I dont know ...

The scooby / clio would eat tyres like they were going out of fashion, if i got more than 6k out of a set of fronts id be pleased :o and i would be a liar if i said the car never wheelspun but that was only because i was driving it ****** hard :D
4WD cars are notoriously hard on tyres though, not sure why. Both my Skylines would go through at least one set of tyres a year and I don't think I ever wheelspun them once.

2 sets of fronts in 18 months is excessive on a Vectra imo, as is needing a new clutch after 40k (again imo).
 
4WD cars are always going to be heavier for a start and providing a lot of grip to the road wears the tyres significantly as its transfers all that load.
 
There's a difference between driving it hard and driving it like a chav, imo.

2 sets of front tyres in 18 months says to me that you light the wheels up constantly.

:confused:

The 2nd set of tyres was put on literally last month.

And the existing tyres were already well scrubbed in when i bought it. Last set of tyres i got about 10k miles from the front.

Thats about average for a high power FWD car i reckon.

As for the clutch, i had a problem about 5 months ago when the gearbox wouldnt engage 6th. Took it to the dealer who just replaced the whole box under warranty. They made a right hash of putting it back together as they didnt put the intercooler back together correctly and the car was running like a bag of nails. Took the car back and they wanted to charge me £200 to put the hose back on. Had massive argument with the service manager and refused to pay it, saying it should be covered A) by warranty and B) you had the car in bits 5 days ago, you cant argue its totally unrelated that a hose has come lose. I turn up to collect keys and complain to vauxhall and they've done the work without my consent and held me to ransom for my keys.

I complained to vauxhall and got a full refund, but the whole experience with the gearbox left a bitter taste in my mouth of my experience with that dealer. Garage havent stripped it yet, but it may have been something else they didnt put back together correctly when they fitted the new box. And ive worn the clutch out driving it like that and trying to make it last past christmas so i can take time off work to fix it (got no holiday left)

Will have to wait and see what the garage say on monday when they strip it.
 
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There's a difference between driving it hard and driving it like a chav, imo.

2 sets of front tyres in 18 months says to me that you light the wheels up constantly.

:confused:

Sure if his car was a 1.1 Saxo but it's not. It's a 300BHP FWD Monster!

A neighbour has an M3 with eats through tyres and he doesn't drive it that hard. This Month will be his 4th set on 2 years, so I guess he's a chav :confused:

4WD cars are notoriously hard on tyres though, not sure why. Both my Skylines would go through at least one set of tyres a year and I don't think I ever wheelspun them once.

2 sets of fronts in 18 months is excessive on a Vectra imo, as is needing a new clutch after 40k (again imo).

Generally 4WD cars have lots of power hence why they get through tyres.

Not enough testing has been done with the Vectra VXR setup to know what's really reliable and what's not. The standard clutch 'should' be OK but it's just a guess. It's like the old F28 6 Speed Box out of the older 4WD Vauxhalls. Bullet proof gearboxes that could take far more power than they should. However, get a bad one and it could pop with standard power going through it.
 
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The E92 M3 manual states about 2k for a pair of tyres or something ridiculous like that. At least thats what an owner I know said when he'd bought one months after they came out and I pointed out his tread was looking low.

My EP3 front tyres (set of RE040 then set of Parada Spec 2) lasted 8k each. 10k+ and you're not driving the car for what it is IMO :p :D ;)
 
ouch that clutch is expensive. Anyway won't you have to fix the clutch if you Part Ex the vectra if you have to do that why not just keep it or is at the point where its just a drain on your resources. Not entirely sure what MPG the vectra does but ST220s can be picked up cheap enough only problem is those 18" rims.

and the 3ltr lump.:)
 
How about this:

Create an estimated cost list of all cars in the considered range:

Price of consumables; tyres, pads, disks and estimated change intervals
Price of Servicing
Price of common faults / issues (make it relative)
Price of Tax
Estimated cost of Petrol expenditure

And then use this to demonstrate the non-heinousness of the VXR?

Personally I'd dump the moo, sell the vxr and import a mint mr2 turbo, and spend the change on hookers and class As. But hey ho, horses and courses :p

Ant :cool:
 
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