[H]ardOCP: GeForce Partner Program Impacts Consumer Choice

TheRealDeal · 14 Mar 2018 at 16:43

Wonder if Jen enters a meeting with the likes of Asus to the imperial March and the first line out of his mouth is I am your father. Nvidia really has got all these companies by the balls so they really have no option but to sign on the dotted line.

spoffle · 14 Mar 2018 at 16:49

Gregster said:
Yep, all tech sites jump on it, so they all have traffic.

The level of denial from you whenever it comes to nVidia doing underhanded things is unreal.

Interestingly though, you tend to blame AMD at the earliest opportunity.

How much are you being compensated for this behaviour?

humbug · 14 Mar 2018 at 16:53

Probably not enough ^^^^

i kid i kid.....

Boomstick777 · 14 Mar 2018 at 16:55

KillBoY_UK said:
This very forum logs your IP is that spying too ?

Not sure if you understand how it works, that's apples and oranges.

Nvidia telemetry, error reporting and data collection is now being done in real-time.

Even if you opt out in Geforce experience, it does not actually turn off.

Even if you don't install Geforce experience it is still there.

"All the articles online detailing how to disable it are incomplete. At most they detail the following:

Nvidia Control Panel > Help > untick "Allow Experience Improvement Program"
Stopping & Disabling the NvTelemetry service
Using the Autoruns (by sysinternals) program to stop any related scheduled tasks

However, even all three of these don't stop it."

You have no say in them collecting your data, and no easy way to stop it. That is the definition of spyware imho.

If you don't mind that's fine. But I don't want this, and that's my opinion, each to their own xD

humbug · 14 Mar 2018 at 16:58

TheRealDeal said:
Wonder if Jen enters a meeting with the likes of Asus to the imperial March and the first line out of his mouth is I am your father. Nvidia really has got all these companies by the balls so they really have no option but to sign on the dotted line.

Gregster · 14 Mar 2018 at 17:27

spoffle said:
The level of denial from you whenever it comes to nVidia doing underhanded things is unreal.

Interestingly though, you tend to blame AMD at the earliest opportunity.

How much are you being compensated for this behaviour?

Denial?

When did I blame AMD?

Why on earth would I be compensated?

I haven't said or done anything that comes across the way you are painting it but you seem to be wrapped up in placing people in whatever realm you see fit. If it wasn't so daft, it would be funny!

jigger · 14 Mar 2018 at 18:51

KillBoY_UK said:
Which would be anti competitive in its self and would make them no better Nvidia

A few billion licence fee to ensure compatibility. Everyone likes compatibility.

David Bisset · 14 Mar 2018 at 19:31

Silent_Scone said:
Such trivial things are deemed tyrannical if it's coming out of NVIDIA depending on who you ask

You do realise the laws on marketing change if you're in a dominant market position?

sideways14a · 14 Mar 2018 at 19:34

AdoredTV absolutely ripping into the tech press at the end of his latest video in a massive rant at how bad, how puny and how afraid they are of upsetting nvidia (and to be honest every other big company keeping them in clicks)

..and he is absolutely right.

Silent_Scone · 14 Mar 2018 at 19:38

sideways14a said:
AdoredTV absolutely ripping into the tech press at the end of his latest video in a massive rant at how bad, how puny and how afraid they are of upsetting nvidia (and to be honest every other big company keeping them in clicks)

..and he is absolutely right.

That's the upshot of not getting sampled much anyway, you've less to lose

sideways14a · 14 Mar 2018 at 19:45

Well your prob right there, however it also does explain why many of the tech sites - and most of the youtube ones - tend to .... well kiss the ass of certain companies.
I bet Hardocp wont see a new nvidia card on release again .. er ever

Silent_Scone · 14 Mar 2018 at 20:00

sideways14a said:
Well your prob right there, however it also does explain why many of the tech sites - and most of the youtube ones - tend to .... well kiss the ass of certain companies.
I bet Hardocp wont see a new nvidia card on release again .. er ever

The guys in NA that handle that side of things aren't going to be bothered by that. Won't have an impact on what board partners sample them. If anything it will probably help lol.

sideways14a · 14 Mar 2018 at 20:02

How do you know that? if the board partners are part of Nvidias little "club" they might be under strict orders just to sample the sites that tow the line.

Heck nvidia will be writing the reviews next

Silent_Scone · 14 Mar 2018 at 20:10

I know how these things work, at least currently. Given vendors will want to push their own products, I don't think there's an issue there.

sideways14a · 14 Mar 2018 at 20:25

Fair enough, i respect your opinion on that ... but to me it most certainly is iffy at least.
We have no idea where this could go, nvidia wants control over vendors and is already working towards control over the press.. time will tell but it aint looking good.

Nablaoperator · 15 Mar 2018 at 05:17

if i were an aib i wouldnt associate radeon with my premium brand.. i would rather start a new range with a different brand identity.
got my first pair of radeons - pretty sure the software maturity is so bad that the hardware doesnt make sense for people with little time on their hands.
the hassles with stability, incompatibility and even simple functionality like uninstalling/reinstalling drivers clearly indicates that radeons should be exclusively targeted at teenagers.. the working class should look at geforce.. thats until intel comes with a nvidia killer

D.P. · 15 Mar 2018 at 05:59

David Bisset said:
You do realise the laws on marketing change if you're in a dominant market position?

No they don't

Kaapstad · 15 Mar 2018 at 06:55

Different brand names for top tier AMD and NVidia cards.

Asus have been doing it for years with their Mars and Ares cards.

james.miller · 15 Mar 2018 at 08:03

Kaapstad said:
Different brand names for top tier AMD and NVidia cards.

Asus have been doing it for years with their Mars and Ares cards.

Mars and Ares are both ROG cards. it looks like nvidia want ROG itself and would be fine for asus to spend the money building another brand themselves.....as long as it's not gaming orientated. That's the impression, anyway - we dont have enough information.

triss · 15 Mar 2018 at 08:34

james.miller said:
Mars and Ares are both ROG cards. it looks like nvidia want ROG itself and would be fine for asus to spend the money building another brand themselves.....as long as it's not gaming orientated. That's the impression, anyway - we dont have enough information.

I agree we dont know all the facts yet. I still dont believe asus will be able to sell ROG stuff only if its Nvidia based as that would rule out a ton of products not just GPU's