had a accident this morning :(

Will · 20 Oct 2011 at 22:21

Jono8 said:
That wording sounds awful. "You MAY have commited an offence"...??

Pure legal speak....only a court can decide if an offence was commited, so its semantics....

Fr0dders · 20 Oct 2011 at 22:23

The thing that puzzles me is why he's not being taken to court and being given the opportunity to buy his way out of it ?

Jono8 · 20 Oct 2011 at 22:33

MrLOL said:
The thing that puzzles me is why he's not being taken to court and being given the opportunity to buy his way out of it ?

because the country is broke

atpbx · 21 Oct 2011 at 00:32

Unless its a scratch its aways best to call the fuzz at the time.

You certainly should have called them with the biker coming off.

wijcc · 21 Oct 2011 at 16:36

great news.. i managed to get hold of the witness and have his mobile phone number now

I will arrange to go help him get the pics off the phone as he is not too IT savvy.. and get a statement off him

He said that he completed the police statement he was sent and in the statement he drew and stated that the biker was on the wrong side of the road and when the impact occured that I was stationary!! He was surprised when i told him i was possibly being done for driving without due care and attention.

The pics he took on his phone, showing the biker picking up his bike and moving it (if he is claiming personal injuries).. so will show the position of the road where the impact occurred.
I have phoned the Met police team handling my case and have the lady dealing with my case calling me back on moday.
So hopefully there might be some light at the end of the tunnel.. but i won't hold my breath

Jay794 · 21 Oct 2011 at 16:38

Surely if the biker was on your side of the road it's his faullt? case closed?

mattyprice4004 · 21 Oct 2011 at 16:59

Glad to hear it's turning round, I'd offer the lorry driver a token of your appreciation in helping out.

It looks like you might have to do some more fighting, but carry on and it'll be worth it in the end!

VoG · 21 Oct 2011 at 17:01

mattyprice4004 said:
I'd offer the lorry driver a token of your appreciation in helping out.

I wouldn't, if it some how winds up in court, that token of appreciation could be misconstrued & blow up in his face.

shoes · 21 Oct 2011 at 17:26

VoG said:
I wouldn't, if it some how winds up in court, that token of appreciation could be misconstrued & blow up in his face.

No, you wait until this has all been settled and there is definitely no more action to be taken by any party, then you pop round with a crate of stella (or whatever).

Fr0dders · 21 Oct 2011 at 19:44

wijcc said:
great news.. i managed to get hold of the witness and have his mobile phone number now
I will arrange to go help him get the pics off the phone as he is not too IT savvy.. and get a statement off him

He said that he completed the police statement he was sent and in the statement he drew and stated that the biker was on the wrong side of the road and when the impact occured that I was stationary!! He was surprised when i told him i was possibly being done for driving without due care and attention.

The pics he took on his phone, showing the biker picking up his bike and moving it (if he is claiming personal injuries).. so will show the position of the road where the impact occurred.
I have phoned the Met police team handling my case and have the lady dealing with my case calling me back on moday.
So hopefully there might be some light at the end of the tunnel.. but i won't hold my breath

Great news !

Would definately see if you can get some free legal advice either through your insurance or from a local solicitor to see how you would speak to somebody about the Careless Driving charge and check they are aware of the fact he was on the wrong side of the road when it happened.

wijcc · 22 Oct 2011 at 21:30

thanks guys.. here are the pics the lorry driver took

The skidmarks show the path of his bike. Also the quequing traffic that was present before the accident.
Do you guys think that these new pics will get the police to evaluate the case?

fadetoblack · 22 Oct 2011 at 21:38

Good photos mate
Not sure if it's wise to be showing them on public forum just yet??

wijcc · 22 Oct 2011 at 21:40

fadetoblack said:
Good photos mate
Not sure if it's wise to be showing them on public forum just yet??

whys that?

fadetoblack · 22 Oct 2011 at 21:48

Well say the biker bloke was to read the part about given the lorry driver a small gift ect.
And seeing the photos on line gives him more of a chance to wiggle out of it??

wijcc · 22 Oct 2011 at 21:50

i haven't given anyone anything though nor has anyone asked for anything

i have taken off two of the pics.. just left the two pics showing the skidmarks left by the bike.. clearly showing it was on the wrong side of the road.

fadetoblack · 22 Oct 2011 at 21:52

Sorry just reread thread got my Stella goggles on ;-)

wijcc · 22 Oct 2011 at 21:56

given that you saw the 2 pics that i have taken off... do you think the pics are enough for the police to at least re-evalaute the case?

VoG · 22 Oct 2011 at 22:10

wijcc said:
do you think the pics are enough for the police to at least re-evalaute the case?

Theres no point trying to second guess there reaction as thats not really a question any one on here can answer with any certainty, just pass the pics on to the police & stick to your guns story wise, as you've now got pictures to back up your account of the accident.

Fuzz · 22 Oct 2011 at 22:11

I probably said this already but if you've pulled out onto the main road, from the side road and the biker was on the main road, he had right of way.
A bike filtering down the outside of the traffic on the wrong side of the road IS allowed..
You still had a duty of care to ensure the road is clear to pull out into no matter WHO flashes you anywhere.

How do I know, I got done for the exact same thing.
I've even got similar photos of bike skid marks exactly as you have.

No charges of careless driving were laid upon me though thankfully, but I can see how pulling out onto a main road without ensuring it is clear can be construed as such!

wijcc · 22 Oct 2011 at 22:13

Scubascorpion said:
I probably said this already but if you've pulled out onto the main road, from the side road and the biker was on the main road, he had right of way.
A bike filtering down the outside of the traffic on the wrong side of the road IS allowed..
You still had a duty of care to ensure the road is clear to pull out into no matter WHO flashes you anywhere.

How do I know, I got done for the exact same thing.

even if the biker is on the wrong side of the road?