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MASSIVE PIC UPDATE FROM #109 PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK 29/12/12

OK so some of you know that I have been planing on water chilling my rig for a while now, I managed to get very lucky and get a hailea hc -500 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-004-HL&groupid=962&catid=2140&subcat=00 for the sum of £183 brand new from the auction site which I was obviously very chuffed about :).
next I just needed to find the time to do what I wanted to do as I knew it would take the best part of a full day so decided to wait until the Christmas holidays so I wouldn't end up rushing it.
today has been that day but it aint finished because I started at 2 this afternoon and called it a day at 10 when I ran out of battery power in my makita drill trying to get the pipes through the floor.
my rig was as follows before today cooled with a 360 tft rad with 4 x 120 noctuas and 1 x 140 noctua that stopped working about a month back so my cooling has been getting worse the last 2-3 months.....these were cooling my 2700k plus 6990 with EN nickel plated block from EK, the plan is to take out all the fans and rad and leave 1 x noctua 80mm that I have drawing heat away from the drives with the chiller cooling the chip and vga.
I have done a hailea chiller project before which was about 5 years ago now and although it was very successful it was also noisy and I only stayed with it for about 6 months because there just wasn't the parts there is today and I am always looking to tweak and make things better which is difficult when you have to keep draining a loop plus the wife was moaning about the noise of the chiller :(.
this time i have a bigger and better hailea plus its going under the floor as im lucky that way and have enough room to house it under there, the pipes will come up and out the chiller in eheim 19mm id tubing till they get up to the floor then im going to slip a 15mm copper pipe in to the tubing and using a jubilee clip to clamp them together tight. the copper will travel up the wall under the pc area until it meets the 1/2 id pipe coming from my pc but will also have a koolance piece that allows me to split the pipe without losing water or pressure (cant quite remember its proper name)this in effect lets me split the chiller from the pc allowing me to work on the pc for whatever reason.
pics will follow tomorrow as there on my camera and my pc has no cooling.....will leave it there just now as i have rebuilt my hole pc today and its now 11.40pm

been working on this for a few more hours today and its now up and running...harrah:)
going to start posting pics as evrybody likes pics.

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this is the package i received from the seller...at the time it was fingers crossed it wasnt full off packaing peanuts or bricks.

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once opened i was delighted to find it was inded a hc-500 hailea chiller and that i had just won a watch :)

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unboxed the chiller looks like this....its not hideous but i wouldnt buy it a drink

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bit of a side profile so that you can see it is as deep as it is wide...its actually deeper

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up against an iphone for a sense of scale

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the fittings they give you with it, you get both straight and 90 degree connecters to couple you to the chiller....bravo hailea for not charging extra for the bent ones

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hailea paperwork and 2 jubilee fittings they give you also

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i wanted to be able to see the temps in the tubes so i bought 2 x sensors plus 2 mtrs of 1/2 id tube, some mayhems biocide and some tube clamps that you see in the picture...i ended up not using them because they didnt go over tube and fitting, they would go over tube on its own but when you offered it in to the fitting it wouldnt go on :(

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a closer look at the xspc temp sensor, bought from ocuk these work very very well in my new set up

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4 litres of mayhems ultra pure sent for free from the good guys at ocuk :)

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ok so this is my pc prior to stripping it down for a re-build, you can see the rad on the right and the noctua fans (there are another 3 on the other side of the rad).
res external to the case aswell on the left hand side

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a shot further up the case so you can see the enermax galaxy and the rest

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side shot

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rear shot showing a multitude of sins (hangs head in shame) i used to prior to doing this have 2 lian li led strips in the case and the colour wiring you can see is for that, it has been taken out now just for cable management purpose

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if you look close you can see the led strip running around the curved inside profile in the case

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these are my current temps prior to starting using core temp, i have the 2700k and its running at just under 3.6ghz. it will be going much higher soon

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note to people with rads, even when you think there clean there not, i clean the rad often using compessed air but was horrified to find this when i stripped back the rad and fans.

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my stunning 6990 EK top cover

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6990 EN nickel plated EK block, man this thing is stunning in the flesh

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danger den res hanging of the back which is where i drain from

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starting to strip down for rebuild, rad has gone and trying to unplug cables as the psu is coming out aswell

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more stripping out

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enermax galaxy is out and all cables along with dvd burner

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starting to get a bit clearer

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swiftech pump that used to be mounted under the rad...this will be going on memebers market soon i have got a d5 laing with EK pump top for the chiller build

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my new psu
xfx fully modular platinum rated 1000w, the enermax is getting on a bit and it was silly long as you can see in the next pic it left me with very little room in the danger den tower 21 case i have

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see how tight it is to the dvd burner, makes cable management a nightmare

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look at the clearance i get with the new psu, mega happy with that the extra 40-50mm makes all the difference

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the existing res is now in the case, it has been taken fron the back to the right hand side on the front.i just didnt have the room with the rad in there before to mount it internally

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moved my crucial m4 128gb from between the 2 mechanical drives to this new position, i think it looks amazing here

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things are starting to come together again

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6990 back in and cables dressed nice

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cables kept to one side and tidy

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wired and back together, ready now for tubing

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now tubed and nearly ready to be filled

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empty res longing for mayhems

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chiller in position under floor, slightly dusty and with a couple of scuffs getting it down there but piped up and ready to rock and roll

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finished pc back on its mounts beside my desk piped and ready to be started

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pipework coming from floor, used some copper because i wanted to have some shut of valves in there plus copper will give me an indication of dew point

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two installed sensors
one on the left shows temp coming from chiller and the one on the right shows it once it has been over the 2700k and 6990, i have the chiller set to 10c just now and my 2700k is at 19c 3.6ghz and 30c 3.6ghz on prime 95. as i play i will post more results
 
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Looking forward to seeing the pics :)

Seems like you been having a fun day :p

yeah i have :)
it took ages to re build the way i wanted it...i also changed the power pack out for a new one (enermax galaxy 1000w - xfx platinum fully modular 1000w).
my case is rubbish for cable management so all cables had to be dressed surface in the case which took time, then I would do something else and it wouldnt work with what I had done so some bits were done 2/3 times but I wanted to be fully happy at the end with it....the joys :) anyway loads of pics tomorrow to come so look out for them.
 
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Nice install, liking the temps :)

Does the unit have any filters, these might require checking periodically.

Whats the overall power draw with that little beauty mate? I'm guessing they cost similar amounts to a dehumidifier to run?

rjc- the unit does have filters that need cleaned...when the time comes i will stretch the hover down there and do it in place

mike- i will check it but i dont think its to bad as you say maybe the same as a dehumidifier
 
Ouch! Funny that ocuk have left out its power consumption figures! I wonder why ;)

its not to bad mike, i have 3 kids each standing in a 10kw shower for 20 minutes....then once there out turning there pc on or charging there phone etc etc etc, they dont give a crap because they dont pay the bill.
point is on the grand scheme of things its a drop in the ocean and it makes me happy knowing my machine is silent and fantastically cooled ;)
 
made a magic box of tricks today so that my chiller comes on with the pc...it basically is a 4x4x2 platic enclosure with a single mk socket cut into the front, inside theres a 12v relay that has the white flex connected to it the other side of that flex has a soldered on molex connector...this changes the polarity of the relay inside so when the pc starts and sends 12v onto the relay it switchs over the 240v side so it makes contact sending mains power to the chiller.....
the black flex is the 240v side and plugs into the mains, the chiller plugs into the single socket on the box of tricks.the chiller is now fully automated :)

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skills.

project looks mint, i really love those DD cases. there have been so many missed opportunities for me to purchase one.

either way. loving the project so far :)

thanks rjk

i went to florida in 2010 and ordered from the DD site then arranged for them to deliver it to my holiday home i was staying in, ****ed my wife of something awful that she and the kids couldnt go to disneyland because i was waiting for a pc case to be delivered.... turned out cool though because it came very early in the morning so we didnt waste any time. came flat pack also so easy to get in my case.
 
done a few more mods over the last few days, decided to change my 8gb vengeance ram for 16gb dominator kit.

i thought about the new crucial ballistix tracer stuff with the green red leds but something wasnt sitting right with me, in my head i knew i wanted corsair dominator but for my case i also wanted leds.
so i decided to google corsair led and found the airflow pro for dominator modules (newer type) for £40 i thought it was worth a punt as i already had a airflow 2 corsair fan that i wasnt using from another build...... i have made a quick vid hear so you can see what its like in my case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kh_rMILFCc&feature=youtu.be

this is the memory activity running IBT

the four centre leds are the temp which go red if hot and green if cool the rest of the leds are activity indicators....in my case i think it looks awesome.
in the vid you cant see the temp sensors in any detail because of the reflections which is a bit of a bummer, once fitted the airflow pro was hitting one of my tubes coming out the cpu so i had to re route it slightly to look right again, this involved using a bitspower 45 deg fitting luckly that i had which sorted it right out.

im still looking for a blu ray drive that has a decent finish on all sides also so if anyone has an idea feel free to shout, when i drained the loop to re route the tube i cut in the koolance splitters that i got from mike gunz on the MM and can i just say that they are perfect, fantastic build quality and they just work like they as supposed to, with the loop under pressure you can split it without losing a drop of fluid...pics to follow.

thats it just now but please let me know what you think? :)
 
Hi I'm always looking for the next big hole in my pocket and this might be it,, Having done phase cooling before the biggest problem I had with it was the amount of heat coming out of the phase unit and heating the room up big time.
So wondering what amount of heat does the water chilling unit pump out into the air.
My current setup is pumping lots of warm air into the room and is just to hot, so looking to do something different.

Sorry for the long post.

Regards,

Martin

hey martin
i have mine under the floor of my house so im not fully sure how much heat its blowing out...i dont think its to bad but what there is you could use it to your advantage by warming your livingroom :)
these are ideal if you can hide them away somewere like in a cupboard or spare room or under a floor...i cant even really hear mine its quality.
 
Are they easy to source and what sort of price would I be looking at for one?

i was busy reading your thread whilst you were posting on mine :)
ocuk stock them phil or can get them anyway think there £430 ....i got mine for £186 brand spanking from that well know auction place, just keep you eye out there as there bargans to be had.
 
How is best to set it up? I was wondering about the condensation point which would be a big concern but it seems like your not having any issues with it?
Do you think it would be able to handle two loops or would that be not possible?

Its definitely been something I was interested in looking at and trying...

condensation wise if you set it so there is 10c max between what your ambient temps and what the chiller is you will be fine and get no condensation....so if your room is 22c then set the chiller to 12c, very easy to do from the front of the unit its self and it can go down to 4c :eek:
mine is currently set at 12c as a couple of days ago we turned the heating up alittle and i started to get the first signs of condensation so i moved it to 12c from 10c that i had it previous now its fine again.
it would handle two loops no problem and you could have saved a packet on all your rads and fans you have or at least broke even on it if you had bought one of these.....i have a single wide tower 21 and yours are double 21's ? and i can get everything in the single with an external chiller.
 
I must admit I didnt think about doing it until seeing the temps for the overclocking that I have managed but I'm sure interested in doing something, maybe as a test to start with if I can find something cheap enough.

If it could handle two loops then the CPU and GPU's would be very comfortable cooling it? At the moment I would be considering a i7 @ 4.4Ghz (at least) and three 3Gb 580 GTX's..

I do have double 21's as you mentioned so do you think it would be possible to get everything cooled to a decent level with little noise?

yes it would cool all that way better than any radiator ever could....if you had silent fans just to waft the air over the mobo your machine would be near silent but the chiller makes noise like a fridge thats why if you could put it elsewere from the room your in it would be best....

my 6990 is at 15c just now
if i lagged all my pipes and set chiller to 4c i recon i could get that 6990 to 8c or so
 
Well I have a water block on the motherboard, so I could use leave the triple rad that's cooling it on its own, so there might be enough air flow to keep the air moving over it. I could hide it under the desk but just depends on what it would sounds like running.

At the moment I have a quad rad for both rigs for CPU and GPU. The triples just work for the motherboard cooling.

As for noise at the moment its really not bad, even with the fans set to around 70% to 80% its really not that noisy. If I had the GPU's under water as well, I expect it would make things a bit quieter...
With a chiller there is no point whatsoever keeping any rads. You have the capability to cool the fluid down over the southbridge and MOSFET blocks way lower, I know you have just bought them and it possibly feels like your wasting money with the rad but you will get far better results without it
 
ok so bit of an update
my sniper 2 mobo gave up on me last sunday so its went back for rma.....pc is currently in bits which breaks my heart so i looked in to going SB-E to see what it would cost.
i thought i would go for the 3930k but ended up looking on auction at the right time and getting a 3960x for £550 unopened retail box (who da man?) so im going to be pairing it up with a asus rampage 4 extreme and i have also got a xspc raystorm block cooler as my danger den one doesn't do socket 2011..looking at getting it built Friday night so new pics up soon.
 
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