Hamilton to Mercedes? BBC
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really cant see him going there
the car isnt good enough to get him a championship
the car isnt good enough to get him a championship
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i still think he'll be with mclaren, i'm of the opinion that this is just stunt to try get a better deal for his contract.
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It's just a bargaining tool for extracting more money out of McLaren, and/or Hamilton getting to keep the trophies rather than staying in McLaren's rather large sideboard.
As much as I'd love to see what sort of a merry-go-round we might end up with should it happen, it just doesn't make sense.
If Hamilton was going to end up at Red Bull, then he'd have signed for Red Bull this year, replacing Webber, who's contract was also up. If he was moving to Ferrari, then he'd be moving to Ferrari this year, replacing Massa, who's contract is also up. If Hamilton was to join Renault, then he would be joining this year, to replace Grosjean, who will surely be released after this year (depending on his reliability in the remaining races). He wouldn't be joining Mercedes as a stop-gap to joining Red Bull, Ferrari or Renault, when all three have/had available spaces for 2013.
And on what we've seen since 1974, with the exception of the first half of 2009, no driver in their right mind would be joining Mercedes/Brawn/BAR/Tyrrell expecting to have a car capable of winning races consistently.
It's just a tool for a better deal from McLaren, who apparently will have to tighten their budget next year, as there's rumours that as well as having to pay for Mercedes engines, they may also lose their Vodafore sponsorship.
As much as I'd love to see what sort of a merry-go-round we might end up with should it happen, it just doesn't make sense.
If Hamilton was going to end up at Red Bull, then he'd have signed for Red Bull this year, replacing Webber, who's contract was also up. If he was moving to Ferrari, then he'd be moving to Ferrari this year, replacing Massa, who's contract is also up. If Hamilton was to join Renault, then he would be joining this year, to replace Grosjean, who will surely be released after this year (depending on his reliability in the remaining races). He wouldn't be joining Mercedes as a stop-gap to joining Red Bull, Ferrari or Renault, when all three have/had available spaces for 2013.
And on what we've seen since 1974, with the exception of the first half of 2009, no driver in their right mind would be joining Mercedes/Brawn/BAR/Tyrrell expecting to have a car capable of winning races consistently.
It's just a tool for a better deal from McLaren, who apparently will have to tighten their budget next year, as there's rumours that as well as having to pay for Mercedes engines, they may also lose their Vodafore sponsorship.
Not according to Mercedes they didn't - they said that was just a coincidence. How true that is I don't know, but they're not exactly renowned for having German drivers in other series - even in DTM they've had drivers from a multitude of countries in their top teams, notably Gary Paffett and Paul di Resta.
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This TBH.
However saying that if he wants to leave McLaren there isn't anywhere to go. The top teams either said no or signed drivers. Also it isn't like bernie to mis-choose his words so would appear schumacher is leaving so empty seat. Maybe di resta to mercedes?
The thing with the F1 rumour mill is that there is usually a grain of truth at the core. However I agree that this is probably just being used as leverage in his mclaren talks. Mercedes is in no way a better option than Mclaren, or even Lotus.
is McLaren's 2014 engine actually designed yet (as this could be a deciding factor given that its surely their first self-designed f1 engine - even if Ilmor badged Merc's for a while)
Have McLaren stated if/when they will race their own engine?
That could be something that might concern Lewis (especially if he has only just started a very long contract when the brand new -1st ever - engine from McLaren gets put in the car)
Have McLaren stated if/when they will race their own engine?
That could be something that might concern Lewis (especially if he has only just started a very long contract when the brand new -1st ever - engine from McLaren gets put in the car)
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True but not on things like this. His sources are usually spot on. He was the first to break the news of Schumacher coming back too.
To those who say it's a bargaining chip, well it doesn't really make sense. TO be a bargaining chip he'd need to have a solid offer/contract on the table from Mercedes, in which case at some point he just might think 'sod it' and join them.
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msc denied that and hulkenberg is beating di resta so i dont get all the di resta hype the brits seem to have
someone should make a list of all the stuff jordan came out with that was BS i can garuntee its atleast 10x more than the stuff that did come true.
the rumours a few weeks ago were that mercedes were aproached by hamiltons firm and werent interested
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Yeah. Smacks of XIX trying to PR McLaren into getting their wallet out to keep Hamilton. Maybe EJ's on a percentage. (that last sentence was proper sarcasm if Arknor is out there).
I really am sick and tired of sports stars extracting massive amounts of money in wages just for an ego boost. Hamilton would have happily raced for nothing in his first season.
Quoted just in case.
I can't see it though, if he wants to win another WDC this is quite a step backwards.
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I get the feeling this is just sabre-rattling by Hamilton's management.
However, if it turns out to be true then I'm all for it. I'm growing tired of Lewis, his 'homies' and his annoying girlfriend. And how any driver can think it's OK (in any circumstances) to post confidential team data on a public service is beyond me.
McLaren need to refocus. Let's not forget that they haven't won a constructor's title since 1998.
If Lewis does go to Mercedes, then I think McLaren need to get proven winners in to the team and not worry so much about the long term. It seems to me that Lewis has been propping-up their appeal to sponsors - I mean, they may not be winning but Lewis has star power - I'm sure he can help Mercedes to out-sell the Escalade. If he goes, then what do they have? They're not championship winners, they don't have Ferrari's charisma and they don't use pay drivers (rightly).
The only thing they can do is start winning again and let that attract the sponsors and engine suppliers.
If Lewis goes then I think they should retain Jenson and pay whatever it takes to re-sign Kimi. Jenson doesn't look that hungry for another title to me - Kimi looks like he wants it and is frustrated that Lotus are 'close but no cigar'. So, Jenson can do the talking and the rear-gunnery while Kimi wins races.
However, if it turns out to be true then I'm all for it. I'm growing tired of Lewis, his 'homies' and his annoying girlfriend. And how any driver can think it's OK (in any circumstances) to post confidential team data on a public service is beyond me.
McLaren need to refocus. Let's not forget that they haven't won a constructor's title since 1998.
If Lewis does go to Mercedes, then I think McLaren need to get proven winners in to the team and not worry so much about the long term. It seems to me that Lewis has been propping-up their appeal to sponsors - I mean, they may not be winning but Lewis has star power - I'm sure he can help Mercedes to out-sell the Escalade. If he goes, then what do they have? They're not championship winners, they don't have Ferrari's charisma and they don't use pay drivers (rightly).
The only thing they can do is start winning again and let that attract the sponsors and engine suppliers.
If Lewis goes then I think they should retain Jenson and pay whatever it takes to re-sign Kimi. Jenson doesn't look that hungry for another title to me - Kimi looks like he wants it and is frustrated that Lotus are 'close but no cigar'. So, Jenson can do the talking and the rear-gunnery while Kimi wins races.
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You laugh, but he gave me the inside info on MS coming out of retirement before it was announced.My next-door neighbour's friend's brother......
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15545829&postcount=81
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You laugh, but he gave me the inside info on MS coming out of retirement before it was announced.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15545829&postcount=81
27 days after Eddie's inside info and it was already all-but-fact?
like eddies schumacher will retire at the end of 2010? anyone remember that one
seriously he spouts so much BS im suprised people take him as gospel and andrew benson is a schumacher hater so will gladly turn in into a story.
go and read every article about schumacher written from benson and the pattern is clear as day.
theres no way hamilton would move to a mid field team which is what merc are
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