Soldato
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Grats Kahn.
TBH you've faced and seen what is happening all over at the moment.
Most companies cut hard on staffing and some still have policies like no replacements in force, plus of course no pay rises at lots of places. I was senior management at my last place so saw all the tricks tactics and lies that were used to keep the workforce down.
E.g "no pay rises for anyone" statement then a rather large payrise for a senior person who was already paid 5x the national average...
From what I can tell the job market will go bonkers once things have genuinely picked up and those employers who have really taken the **** during the difficult times are going to struggle more. I mean the ones who do something like sack 50% of a department and expect the staff to pick up more and more work.
Personally handing my notice in has always been the start of negotiations to me staying at old employer. I never accept a job I dont want, so that puts me in the driving seat. I am always prepared to negotiate to not leave the current one, but they need to recognise your worth at least as much to another employer and as such they need to start recognisng that with money/responsibility/training etc
Have a think what you waould want to stay. If they start to talk to you, just give them the list and say look I've thought about it and I would be willing to stay but here is what realistically I would need.
TBH you've faced and seen what is happening all over at the moment.
Most companies cut hard on staffing and some still have policies like no replacements in force, plus of course no pay rises at lots of places. I was senior management at my last place so saw all the tricks tactics and lies that were used to keep the workforce down.
E.g "no pay rises for anyone" statement then a rather large payrise for a senior person who was already paid 5x the national average...
From what I can tell the job market will go bonkers once things have genuinely picked up and those employers who have really taken the **** during the difficult times are going to struggle more. I mean the ones who do something like sack 50% of a department and expect the staff to pick up more and more work.
Personally handing my notice in has always been the start of negotiations to me staying at old employer. I never accept a job I dont want, so that puts me in the driving seat. I am always prepared to negotiate to not leave the current one, but they need to recognise your worth at least as much to another employer and as such they need to start recognisng that with money/responsibility/training etc
Have a think what you waould want to stay. If they start to talk to you, just give them the list and say look I've thought about it and I would be willing to stay but here is what realistically I would need.