Hard Drive Failure?

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So I had my nice OcUK pre built rig from 2007 till last month and not a problem, but I have sold it to my brother and dad who play the odd game and watch porn and now this problem has popped up:



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Any help appreciated thanks!
 
a big cause is the hard drive being knocked. Even a slight bump could knock the read/write heads against the platters and cause microscopic damage. This damages the sectors and the hard drive tries to reallocate them to preserve it's data integrity. The bump could have happened when you were giving it to your dad and bro.

The problem is that one bump could knock tiny particles from the platters which get spread around the drive and dragged under the heads...causing more bad sectors.

Either that or you just got a bad hard drive. No hard drive is built without errors. They have a list of all the defects in the firmware.

Joe
 
Yes people have no idea how susceptible mechanical drives are to vibration,
The other thing is Heat and the fact people don't set the drives to turn off when the PC's are left on idle for long periods.

At 4 Years old that drive has done well, count Yourself lucky You got the SMART warning, failed large single drives bring lots of pain to the unprepared !
 
JAKUS said:
Yes people have no idea how susceptible mechanical drives are to vibration,
The other thing is Heat and the fact people don't set the drives to turn off when the PC's are left on idle for long periods.

At 4 Years old that drive has done well, count Yourself lucky You got the SMART warning, failed large single drives bring lots of pain to the unprepared !
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Heat isn't an issue for drives, Google and others have published stats on this. Also, spinning up and down adds more wear than anything else so it's better to keep a disk running than keep having it power on and off.
 
AbsenceJam said:
Heat isn't an issue for drives, Google and others have published stats on this. Also, spinning up and down adds more wear than anything else so it's better to keep a disk running than keep having it power on and off.
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Heat is an issue for all electronic components, You are correct regarding startup loadings to the platter motor, however it's offset by wasted heat and power.

You may not go back far enough to remember IBM 7200RPM Deskstars known as (Deathstars) :D as they were quite unreliable.

I Used to use quite a few of these and I supplied a System with 2 30GB's in Raid 0 , Just earlier this Year the drives Failed , That's 10 Years of hard Use, as usual good extra cooling and drives set to spin down after 10mins.
So You say I was testing drives long before Google and I found it was heat related "drift" in the control electronics and they would start miss reading sectors etc
 
JAKUS said:
Heat is an issue for all electronic components, You are correct regarding startup loadings to the platter motor, however it's offset by wasted heat and power.

You may not go back far enough to remember IBM 7200RPM Deskstars known as (Deathstars) :D as they were quite unreliable.

I Used to use quite a few of these and I supplied a System with 2 30GB's in Raid 0 , Just earlier this Year the drives Failed , That's 10 Years of hard Use, as usual good extra cooling and drives set to spin down after 10mins.
So You say I was testing drives long before Google and I found it was heat related "drift" in the control electronics and they would start miss reading sectors etc
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So you're saying that your experiences are more telling than statistics on tens of thousands of drives? And that last sentence is just nonsense.
 
Could try backing up, running a few zero sector passes through WD's tools and seeing if it sorts some of the sectors. Had the same error on my WD1600AAJS, it would fail every SMART test and refuse to zero sector, but did after a few attempts and the errors went away.
 
AbsenceJam said:
So you're saying that your experiences are more telling than statistics on tens of thousands of drives? And that last sentence is just nonsense.
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No, I'm simply giving You an example and the benefit of My experience, Your obviously bright enough to have an formed an opinion just from what you have read and You are correct to question Me, but don't rubbish it because of some article says hot running drives are just as reliable.

Heat is the no1 enemy of electronics and well up there for most mechanical devices, If You don't believe Me disconnect the cooling fans on your PC and Car.

There are plenty of other reasons for drives to fail prematurely, just getting a little warm on occasions is not gonna make the top 5. But run them consistently hot and 100% you will shorten their life !

I'm actually kinda surprised SMART monitors temps.......obviously the engineers didn't reed the Google article :D
 
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