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hardocp 3870x2 review up

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3870x2 review thread

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ1NCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

This card HAS to be competative price wise with the gtx, if not i can see some dust gathering on some ati branded boxes quite soon =/

Some discussion in the forum as well, amd don;t agree with the articles reuslts 0_o

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1031979923&posted=1#post1031979923

anandtech review

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3209&p=1

According to them the x2 is slapping the gtx around quite a bit 0_o
 
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The anandtech results are pretty gobsmacking, theres a few benchmarks where the x2 is dancing around on the gtx by around 50fps. Loses out in a few like quakewars and i think one other, wil have a proper read in the morning.
 
Looks like AMD just can't compete right now. Even two of its best struggles against a card well over a year old.
 
dbmzk1 said:
Looks like AMD just can't compete right now. Even two of its best struggles against a card well over a year old.
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Depends on what review you read, right now theres 2 styles of review

1 that actually plays the game and takes min\max\avg framerates (hardocp)

and the other basically plays timedemos and flybys and measures min\max\avg framerate.

It seems in the second style of review the x2 is excelling, not so much in the first style of review. Suppose its down to the individual what stance to take on this.
 
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I don't see it excelling at anything. There are 2 GPUs, so you would expect it to be faster. It is in some cases, but not by a huge amount. If you actually play games instead of running benchmarks it might actually be slower. I don't it as being a great step forward, that's for sure!

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/28/ati_r680_the_rage_fury_maxx_2/page19.html

Gives a good overall view of its performance (or lack of) I think!

Unless it's no more than £230, then it will be a bargain. But it will be more, so it's pointless. :p
 
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That noise comment has actually just completely put me off, unfortunately.

"A single Radeon HD 3870 is quite power efficient, but putting two on a board inevitably is going to draw a bit of current. It's no surprise that the X2 is not only the hottest card out of the bunch, but it also makes the most noise; there's simply a lot of heat to expel from an admittedly well designed card.

If cool and quiet are your goals, the 3870 X2 is not a good answer."
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Looking at the AT and TH reviews two things are apparent.

The 3800X2 is slight faster than an Ultra.
If they were aiming for 30% better than they missed the target.

It gets owned by a pair of GT's in SLI.
Isn't NV's dual card sandwich thing a pair of GTS's

Don't think NV are going to be losing any sleep over it.
 
PCZ said:
Looking at the AT and TH reviews two things are apparent.

The 3800X2 is slight faster than an Ultra.
If they were aiming for 30% better than they missed the target.

It gets owned by a pair of GT's in SLI.
Isn't NV's dual card sandwich thing a pair of GTS's

Don't think NV are going to be losing any sleep over it.
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If the X2 is significantly cheaper then yes it is competing as in all benchmarks its as good if not better

Problem Nv has is that SLI doesnt work half as well as crossfire , and whether your pc sees it as such or not, its still a crossfire/sli card to do its job
 
Seeing these benchies i'm very interested to see the price it comes in at. Whilst it only appears marginally better than 2 3870's in xfire which can be had for £270, and it gets beaten by 2 GT's in SLI which can be had for £310.

Whilst one would expect is to be around the £270 mark, if it approaches too close to the £300 mark then people will just SLI 2 GT's for the same cost and better performance

PCZ, gets the GX2 is 2 GTS's SLI'd which will ofcourse beat this card, but i'd imagine that coming in at the £400+ area so really a different market to this card.
 
Problem Nv has is that SLI doesnt work half as well as crossfire.
You sure about that, look at AT's review again.
 
PCZ said:
Problem Nv has is that SLI doesnt work half as well as crossfire.
You sure about that, look at AT's review again.
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Not this again, its a proven fact crossfire scales better than sli.

We arnt saying that 2 3870's are faster than 2 gt's. We are saying that the % increase from 1 card to 2 is better in crossfire than sli.
 
I like to see the min framerates in reviews and Anandtech don't show them but hardocp does and they suck with the X2, regardless of driver version, they blow with this series of ATI cards, proballly due to AA in the games Why bother with an X2, just get a GTX, GTS 512 or a GT.
 
Shadez said:
Not this again, its a proven fact crossfire scales better than sli.

We arnt saying that 2 3870's are faster than 2 gt's. We are saying that the % increase from 1 card to 2 is better in crossfire than sli.
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Whilst this was my belief too, I just had a look at the results posting from anandtech. Looking at the 1920:1200 0AA scores in terms of % fps increase, Bioshock, Crysis, UT3 all scaled better with SLI than crossfire. Half Life, Oblivion and World in Conflict scaled better with crossfire whilst gains for CoD4 and Witcher were comparable. The average % fps increase over all 7 games was 63% going from 1GT to 2GT SLI and 59% going from 3870 to 3870x2

So these results at least do not indicate that crossfire on average is scaleing better than SLI. For some games it is yes, but not all.
 
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