Harry Maguire - Banged up Abroad

[omnomnom]

How did he know they are actually policemen? You are miles away from home. Anything could be going on. Like I said if they were uniformed police then I would understand completely but if I was abroad in some other country and some plain clothes people came up to me and tryed to handcuff me I would be a bit apprehensive to say the least.

Why were plain clothes policemen even there in the first place?

This isnt Hostel mate...this is real life. It isnt a film...who reacts like that? The fact that i'd be so far away from home is why id be careful anyway.

If a plain clothes police officer comes to arrest me after ive been in a brawl the last thing i'm doing is legging it. That's in sunny Blackpool or Greece.

 

[Purdy]

I disagree. I think we should all jump on the bandwagon and criticise Maguire for not apologising and Utd and any Utd supporter for defending him after he was found guilty in a court of law.

, yeah don't think any of them see the slightest hint of irony in that, but tbf homophobia and assault apparently aren't too bad.

I will however be frothing at the mouth and insisting he should've been jailed if he scores against us.

This isnt Hostel mate...this is real life.

lolling

 

[BaZ87]

As far as I can gather some people have tryed to drug his sister. He left with her and then been confronted by two plain clothes people who claim to be police officers. Considering his stature what do you think he is thinking at the time? What were the plain clothes police officers even doing there in the first place?

As far as you can gather equals wild guess work and cherry picking bits of Maguire's defence? Anyway, that's besides the point. Lets assume that Maguire's sister was attacked. How do we get from there to Maguire being taken to the police station and being attacked by the police?

The whole foreign police thing is being used quite a bit in here by a few people but even if we accept that police from this part of the world can be heavy handed, are we seriously meant to believe that they've randomly decided to attack Maguire for no reason?

I try not to wildy speculate on most things but if you asked me to take a stab in the dark at what happened here then I'd say that Maguire and his group probably got into a bit of a confrontation with another group (very possibly because of something relating to his sister) and when plain clothed police have stepped in, he and his group have got a bit physical with them, not knowing they were the police. I find it very hard to believe that Maguire would start a fight with the police, knowing they were the police but I find it equally as hard to believe that the police just attacked him for no reason.

 

[fez]

The first thing id do if i thought my sister was in danger is leg it and leave her to sort herself out.

Deary me.

You horrible human. You need to push her over first.

 

[fez]

I find it very hard to believe that Maguire would start a fight with the police, knowing they were the police but I find it equally as hard to believe that the police just attacked him for no reason.

Would you find it hard to believe that police in the US shoot people in their own homes when they have smashed down the doors in the middle of the night and point guns at people who were asleep a few seconds earlier?

Police in this country would quite happily give someone a kicking just for the hell of it 30-40 years ago.

I have no real idea what actually happened but I would be amazed if a footballer who has no history of being a **** has decided to attack police who clearly identified themselves as such and behaved like police. I find it much easier to believe that plainclothes offices saw an english guy in a scuffle and decided to be heavy handed. Lets be honest, what happens when someone from the UK gets in trouble abroad and the local police are a bit dodgy. They come home, suck up their small punishment and whinge to their mates. No one knows about it and the police go on their merry way.

They did this to a high profile footballer and now its all blown up and they were hoping it would all go away with a ridiculous slap on the wrist.

 

[GIBURROWS]

Send him down for life and save United fans the embarrassment of his performances.

 

[BaZ87]

Would you find it hard to believe that police in the US shoot people in their own homes when they have smashed down the doors in the middle of the night and point guns at people who were asleep a few seconds earlier?

Police in this country would quite happily give someone a kicking just for the hell of it 30-40 years ago.

I have no real idea what actually happened but I would be amazed if a footballer who has no history of being a **** has decided to attack police who clearly identified themselves as such and behaved like police. I find it much easier to believe that plainclothes offices saw an english guy in a scuffle and decided to be heavy handed. Lets be honest, what happens when someone from the UK gets in trouble abroad and the local police are a bit dodgy. They come home, suck up their small punishment and whinge to their mates. No one knows about it and the police go on their merry way.

They did this to a high profile footballer and now its all blown up and they were hoping it would all go away with a ridiculous slap on the wrist.

I have no idea where to start in replying to this. You're comparing completely different things and even in your own explanation/version of events, you've had to add in the part about Maguire being in a scuffle just to make it sound more plausible. Maguire made no reference to anything like that - he simply said he was taken to the police station instead of the hospital (again why?) and then attacked by the police.

I'm under no illusions regarding the behviour of the police and I'm well aware that police in certain parts of the world are almost a law unto themselves however I highly doubt that they've just randomly attacked Maguire, as he claimed (not that he was in a scuffle and they've stepped in).

 

[fez]

I have no idea where to start in replying to this. You're comparing completely different things and even in your own explanation/version of events, you've had to add in the part about Maguire being in a scuffle just to make it sound more plausible. Maguire made no reference to anything like that - he simply said he was taken to the police station instead of the hospital (again why?) and then attacked by the police.

I'm under no illusions regarding the behviour of the police and I'm well aware that police in certain parts of the world are almost a law unto themselves however I highly doubt that they've just randomly attacked Maguire, as he claimed (not that he was in a scuffle and they've stepped in).

Its a pretty simple point Baz. You can't judge police forces in different countries by our own standards. What seems ridiculous to us might be commonplace in other countries. Either way, we will see what happens in the future with this.

 

[BaZ87]

Its a pretty simple point Baz. You can't judge police forces in different countries by our own standards. What seems ridiculous to us might be commonplace in other countries. Either way, we will see what happens in the future with this.

I didn't judge police forces in different countries by our own standards I even acknowledged in the post that you first quoted that police in that part of the word have a reputation for being heavy handed but Maguire's version of events was that he was attacked for absolutely no reason. This I find hard to believe regardless of the reputation of police in Greece. I do not believe that the police randomly decided to start attacking Maguire. Again, even in your possible scenario, you had to add in the part that Maguire was in a scuffle that then lead to the issue with the police so it would seem that even you find it hard to believe too.

 

[IronSpider]

My word in the interview he barely gave a single answer while looking the reporter in the eye. He was looking at the floor 90% of the time. It's like he was trying to convince himself. I'm sure what he's supposed to have done has been exaggerated but the kidnap story is laughable.

 

[Malevolence]

So he legged it with a handcuff on one hand? Are we honestly supposed to believe the police didn't say who they were?

I lived and worked in Greece for quite some time, admittedly quite some years back, but the police were shady as **** when it came to foreign tourists. Quite often they'd detain, not arrest, people for absolutely nothing at all other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and then let them go after they'd paid the 'local tax'.

Not saying that's what happened here, but shady **** does happen.

 

[omnomnom]

I lived and worked in Greece for quite some time, admittedly quite some years back, but the police were shady as **** when it came to foreign tourists. Quite often they'd detain, not arrest, people for absolutely nothing at all other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and then let them go after they'd paid the 'local tax'.

Not saying that's what happened here, but shady **** does happen.

Then why when he tried to bribe them would they not accept it? Why was he given a sentence that couldn't be paid off like a custodial sentence could have?