Has anyone been on probation before?

BallistixOnZ490 said:
But wearing a non religious / medical face cover isn't allowed.

I've seen kids being asked to take their hoodies off in shopping centres by security guards, when they would never dare to ask people to remove religious head covers.

Always rules for thee but not for me.
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People walking around with their hoods pulled up over their heads/faces are more likely to cause issues than people in religious head coverings. It's as simple as that. Blame the people who choose to cause problems while wearing certain types of clothing rather than the people trying to protect their business.
 
tom_e said:
People walking around with their hoods pulled up over their heads/faces are more likely to cause issues than people in religious head coverings. It's as simple as that. Blame the people who choose to cause problems while wearing certain types of clothing rather than the people trying to protect their business.
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I don't see that to ever be the case.

The business in question sold hoodies in many of its stores too.

200sols said:
Haha. This guy seems to go full on mad mode in every thread. Obviously has serious issues so don't be too hard on him ;)
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Trying to discuss topics I find interesting is going full mad now?
 
tom_e said:
Just because you never see it doesn't make it untrue. A group of kids with their hoods up walking around a shopping center are much more likely to cause issues than someone in a religious head covering.
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Any actual evidence to prove that?

When I worked in a clothes store we were shoplifted by people wearing full suits. Easiest way to 'cause trouble' is to make yourself as inconspicuous as possible, not to stand out like a sore thumb.

Most unis also make and provide their students with hoodies with their unis logo / name on them, and lots of the students enjoy wearing them. I guess that means they are all predisposed to be criminals then.

Why not just start arresting people for wearing clothes that are generally disliked?
 
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pp111 said:
I had a friend who was. I will tell you the story...
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It is mad, isn't? The way the mentally ill and addicts were failed by the justice system. Fortunately nowadays I think they have a better understanding and more compassion to attempt some help/psychotherapy/rehab, so steps are being made in the right direction.

Semple said:
I get you're being vague, but are you over exaggerating the extremely personal bit.
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I don't think I am, they're too personal for me to mention here publicly. I get how not mentioning specifics it could just be seen as me having a moan, but I assure you I am a more than reasonable person yet find them to be unnecessary.

d_brennen said:
So you were done for carrying knives? You should be rotting in a cell for the next decade imo. Answer their questions and stop being such a prat
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LOL :rolleyes:
 
Why do people feel a reason to collect knives I find odd to begin with but to each their own. Especially when fully admitting they're a danger to their children and need to be hidden away elsewhere

How did a police officer come to have to check your boot as I've never had a police officer randomly ask to check my boot? Obviously someone reported you for having knives?

I'd expect them to do background checks. Knife crimes are becoming quite a thing in the south of England and people who are found to be carrying one, let aline q few should be challenged.

Not saying you would, but if you did go on to stab someone after police had found a collection of knives in your car and done nothing about it, there would be uproar that the police had not done their job.

As innocent and crap as it may be to have these searches, I think due to a circumstance of some mad nutter being caught with knives , it is in everyone's best interest for the police to determine if there is a risk or not. As much as you know your intentions, the police dont and have a duty to determine if a boot full of knives was innocent or not.
 
Le Clandestin Brun said:
Thank you. I feel it too intrusive, personal and completely unwarranted.

To expand, and to also answer Dowie - I had my car searched and was found with a collection of souvenir knives in my car, which I had placed there to avoid my young children finding in my drawers now that they have started walking, and was going to drop them at my parents home when I next visited. Unfortunately it appears that was a criminal offence and was charged with each item.
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Butterfly knives are illegal to own full stop, any others you need a good reason to have on your person. Realistically transporting them would be a good enough reason if you didn't have the butterfly knife, but that probably screwed you.

I've been stopped once before transporting my knives from work to my home, had 7-8 knives with me but they were happy with the explanation and let me on my way.
 
Jonnybmac said:
Why do people feel a reason to collect knives I find odd to begin with but to each their own. Especially when fully admitting they're a danger to their children and need to be hidden away elsewhere
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This is something I've often wondered. On a few American tech forums you get loads of users posting about their hobbyist knife collections, like what even is the point?

They often like to simply use it as a 'Hahaha muh 'Murican freedoms you loser Brits', like and why would I want to spend any money on knives other than for kitchen stuff?
 
BallistixOnZ490 said:
Most unis also make and provide their students with hoodies with their unis logo / name on them, and lots of the students enjoy wearing them. I guess that means they are all predisposed to be criminals then.
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You’re missing the point (probably on purpose). Lots of people wear hoodies.
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A group of kids with their hoods up walking around a shopping center
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Not Uni students. Kids with their hoods up. The only reason I can think of to wear a hood in a shopping centre is to hide your face so you can’t be identified.
 
Feek said:
Not Uni students. Kids with their hoods up. The only reason I can think of to wear a hood in a shopping centre is to hide your face so you can’t be identified.
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But the point is that Islamic face coverings are allowed, and right now everyone is wearing face masks anyway. These haven't created any increased security risks.

I would genuinely like to be able to cover my face for the same social reasons but with non religious clothing. Well I already get to do as such with a facemask and goggles now.

However legally there are no restrictions on head coverings. You can actually refuse to remove them if asked and security guards have no power to do anything if you aren't breaking any laws.
 
Le Clandestin Brun said:
Thank you. That's interesting, perhaps they are going through new paperwork with me like a checklist? I'm being asked extremely personal things such as my care for my children, my relationship with my wife, my work, my friends, my finances/assets, my day to day activities etc. All completely unrelated to my conviction and something I do not wish to discuss with a stranger.
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If the crime was violent they will be concerned about potential domestic abuse.

They want to know about your friends in case you have criminal friendships. If they find out you have association with criminals you'll be in the *******.

They want to know about your finances to get an idea if you might be involved in criminal enterprise.
 
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