Has anyone done a Swytch conversion?

bimbleuk said:
Hopefully I've bought better cells from Dillinger but just in case I also invested in a Lunar charger (imported from the US!) which can be programmed for charge rate and charge percentage. So charge to 80% for storage and then charge higher just before hoping on the bike to cycle to work. Same discipline I apply to my big EV except I tend to keep the big EV at a lower SOC range see below.
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Both my batteries I bought last year have Samsung cells and using advice from the awesome Pedelecs forums I turned down one of the pots on a charger so it only outputs at 40v instead of 42v so it only charges around 90%.
Funnily enough my new Sony phone has a setting where I only charge to 90% and once a month it charges to 100%.
I wouldn't mind a link to the Lunar charger please so I don't have to keep swapping chargers.
 
bainbridge said:
That sounds reasonable, many ebikes I've seen are Dutch style. One thing to bear in mind is the condition of the batteries on a used ebike. They're only good for a limited number of charging cycles before the degradation really starts to affect the performance. I'd recommend finding out the cost and availability of replacement batteries and factoring that in, just in case.
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Thanks. I didn't realise they were so poor in terms of longevity, especially considering the cost. I had seen a lot of bikes stating the battery was dead/faulty, but had assumed that was just due to them not being used for years. Sounds like it's a common event.

It's a weird one, i saw the bike and then thought i recognised the seller and it turns out it's a mates mum from back home (i have a wide-ish search). She says it's had a new battery and from what i can see it's not a bike which was factory fitted with an electric motor so i think they may have converted it themselves (It's a Barracuda Dorado 7). If that's the case it might be cheaper to buy replacement batteries and given both my mate and his dad are engineers, it's hopefully done well!
 
I actually met somebody with the Swytch kit a few months ago. The owner loved the simplicity of the system and the fact she didn't get hot and sweaty leading her husband up hills :D

My wife even suggested we should buy two kits for us ( my knees are shot )
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Both my batteries I bought last year have Samsung cells and using advice from the awesome Pedelecs forums I turned down one of the pots on a charger so it only outputs at 40v instead of 42v so it only charges around 90%.
Funnily enough my new Sony phone has a setting where I only charge to 90% and once a month it charges to 100%.
I wouldn't mind a link to the Lunar charger please so I don't have to keep swapping chargers.
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Worth noting that Yose won't send to the UK anymore.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Both my batteries I bought last year have Samsung cells and using advice from the awesome Pedelecs forums I turned down one of the pots on a charger so it only outputs at 40v instead of 42v so it only charges around 90%.
Funnily enough my new Sony phone has a setting where I only charge to 90% and once a month it charges to 100%.
I wouldn't mind a link to the Lunar charger please so I don't have to keep swapping chargers.
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Slight typo as it's Luna but here's a link to a 48V Mini charger for example that is fixed at 3A but can be set to 80% 90% 100%. Much cheaper at $59.95 than the more advanced charges with variable amps. Seems they have a wider range from 36V to 72V now as well. Only problem is of course they are fixed voltage chargers so more expense if you up the battery pack voltage.

My advanced Luna charger works on UK 240V but I'm not sure the mini chargers will work so email them beforehand.

May need an XT60 connector to 5.5mm DIN to match your battery pack. If they don't have one in stock I found one easily enough over here.

https://lunacycle.com/48v-3amp-luna-mini-charger/

The Rolls-Royce of charges however is the one below which I was tempted by but is really meant for professional workshops!

https://ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicycle-parts/chargers/satiator-high-voltage-model-5a-max.html

Grin also do the best kits and have tons of eBike info on their site. Sadly the import and postage put their products out of my budget.
 
Martynt74 said:
Out of interest, is £400 a do-able amount to get a conversion kit? I started to spec something up on Cyclocity and ended up at £700!

Bike would be something like this
https://www.raleigh.co.uk/gb/en/pioneer/low-step/?attrMarketingColor=Black and Grey
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You can buy generic kits on Amazon for that sort of money. However I would question the quality of the battery cells being used. They don't necessarily match the posted spec.

Good comparison vid from Project Farm.

https://youtu.be/qMZuHMlRw_0
 
Martynt74 said:
Worth noting that Yose won't send to the UK anymore.
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So you go on ebay and there are plenty of sellers selling Yose Power gear which I think is a Yose workaround.
I bought this for a mate's conversion a couple of weeks ago - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393177920365

bimbleuk said:
Slight typo as it's Luna but here's a link
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Thanks

Martynt74 said:
Out of interest, is £400 a do-able amount to get a conversion kit? I started to spec something up on Cyclocity and ended up at £700!

Bike would be something like this
https://www.raleigh.co.uk/gb/en/pioneer/low-step/?attrMarketingColor=Black and Grey
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Both of my conversions are Cyclotricity which are 10 years old but I realised a few years ago they use the same stuff as Yose Power with the easy Julet/KT connectors and like I said above there are plenty of sellers on eBay doing Yose Power.
The one I linked to I obviously received the stuff and it's on his bike.
He got his battery from somewhere else.

Just seen your link and that's the exactly the kit you need I linked to
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Both of my conversions are Cyclotricity which are 10 years old but I realised a few years ago they use the same stuff as Yose Power with the easy Julet/KT connectors and like I said above there are plenty of sellers on eBay doing Yose Power.
The one I linked to I obviously received the stuff and it's on his bike.
He got his battery from somewhere else.

Just seen your link and that's the exactly the kit you need I linked to
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Thanks. I was speaking to a mate who suggested the front wheel type made steering very heavy. How do you find it?
 
Martynt74 said:
Thanks. I was speaking to a mate who suggested the front wheel type made steering very heavy. How do you find it?
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That's a myth, I've had all 3 systems and I prefer front wheel drive but only because it's easier for maintenance.
I can't even say mid drive was better for getting up hills, they are all the same for me.
The thing that makes it better is a bigger 48v motor and 48v battery but I didn't feel safe doing 30 mph on the throttle so I went back to 250 watt.
It also wasn't fun the several times I ran out of power and I'd got to try and cycle home.

I'm surprised @amigafan2003 isn't in here because he really is the expert on this stuff.
 
Ah good to know. My wife has M.E, so the fear of heavy steering was a concern. My mate seemed to suggest his mum was selling it due to the steering being heavier and so had moved to another bike, maybe it's just more down to the fact the newer motors are smaller and lighter?

In which case i question whether i'm better buying a bike and then fitting the kit myself for not much more.
 
Martynt74 said:
To be honest i think that's feeling like it might be favourable at this point. Seems very straight forward from a fitting point of view. Although obviously there's now be an even longer wait!

Where did you find the survey info?
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You register to pre-order on the Swytch site, and shortly after announcing the date that orders can be taken, they email with a link saying complete the survey and they'll allow you to order a day early with £30 off.

You can only pre-order 1 kit initially, but a few days later you get sent a link to the order portal, where, in addition to entering wheel size etc, you can add extra kits (still with the 50% discount) but also get an additional £50 off each extra kit.
 
Martynt74 said:
Ah good to know. My wife has M.E, so the fear of heavy steering was a concern. My mate seemed to suggest his mum was selling it due to the steering being heavier and so had moved to another bike, maybe it's just more down to the fact the newer motors are smaller and lighter?

In which case i question whether i'm better buying a bike and then fitting the kit myself for not much more.
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The bike you linked
The kit I linked - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393177920365
A battery from here - https://greencell.global/en/595-e-bike-batteries (these were Samsung)

I don't think you'll be disappointed, this is what I've basically been using for 10 years.
 
Update: Swytch order has been manufactured and is on a container ship, which is currently crossing the Indian Ocean before heading up towards the Suez. There's tracking info so I can track the ship. Still on track for mid November delivery.
 
Update: The Swytch conversion kits have landed in the UK at Felixstowe. Just need to wait for them to clear customs, go to a warehouse somewhere and finally they'll be delivered.
 
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