Has making a pass at a woman just become illegal?

[Chris Wilson]

so the problem is a tiny percentage of the population that is black/Asian and of that population a even tinier percentage have misogynistic views in their young men and some are sex offenders. The way you are talking made me think we had a huge problem with our young men becoming sex offenders on the horizon. Glad that isn't the case.

Err, our two largest cities, Birmingham and London are now predominantly none white. The House of Commons looks like a photo shoot for the United Nations Christmas calendar, the left wing media clamour that "people of colour" are under represented (except in prison, which they conveniently never mention...) and Rotherham, Rochdale, Bradford, Oxford, Telford and Newcastle are, alongside many other towns and cities, having the shame of being named epicentres of the grooming of young girls by Asian and Asian descent men, mainly Pakistanis. Tiny percentage indeed.

Grooming gangs still abusing girls a decade after Rochdale scandal, says whistleblower​

A former detective says the police and authorities are still failing to take the matter seriously and are continuing to let victims down



By Martin Evans, Crime Editor 11 February 2023 • 6:00am

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...l-abusing-girls-decade-rochdale-scandal-says/

 

[Chris Wilson]

It clearly doesn't; 4% of the UK population is black yet they're 9.9% of those currently in prison for sexual assault... so 2.5 times as many vs the general population.

But of course this isn't sexual assault, this is a much lower level, vague offence and unless you're living in a bubble then it will also be quite apparent that calling out/approaching people in the street can be way more frequent in certain urban locations*, it's not just working-class builders.

*See the reactions to the 10 hours of walking in NYC video, a woman just walked around minding her own business in NYC with a guy in front of her covertly filming it, they then showed all of the harassment she experienced online... but of course, this was real life not a Gillette or UK government advert and that became "problematic":

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/11/01/360422087/hollaback-video-calls-out-catcallers-but-cuts-out-white-men

 

[Chris Wilson]

I literally quoted a Wikipedia article that covers a 1856 legal case concerning reasonableness in the law of negligence, that first case and the one that set a precedence for what reasonableness is for the next 150+ years. One that's taught in A level legal studies to this day to teach students what a reasonable person is.

bits of law | Tort | Negligence | Breach of Duty: Standard of Care

Study note on standard of care and breach of duty in negligence. Free study and revision resources for law students (LLB Degree/GDL) on tort law and the English Legal System.

www.bitsoflaw.org

The Reasonable Man: Subjective or Objective?

The Student Lawyer discusses the case law surrounding the 'Reasonable Man' test. Is this a test that is subjective or objective?

thestudentlawyer.com

Things have changed, the whole thing is in flux. You need to define a man, then a woman. in these gender fluid times all I can say is good luck...

Seriously though, as I and now Angilion have said, despite the law saying a "Reasonable Man" is objective, it's quite plainly anything but, in fact a less concrete arbiter is hard to imagine.

 

[Chris Wilson]

No offence, but in choosing to use the example of which processor is the best has changed over the years and what was the best then is not now is amusing.

The arguments on this very forum as to what is the best piece of hardware for a PC at any current moment are legendary and shows just how subjective that example is.

 

[Chris Wilson]

You don't think it's possible until you actual come across it but here you are.

Do you seriously not understand that what EVERYONE else thinks is objective, that while each individual within the group of EVERYONE have subjective opinions that collectivity they make up an objective judgment. That if a group of ten people each hold their own personal, subjective, opinions on something like whether the death sentence is right or wrong that collectivity we can make an objective judgment, if seven out of ten think it's wrong that's the very definition of an objective judgment. You've canvassed the subjective opinions of ten people and come to an objective judgment that 7 out 10 people think it's wrong.

No, it shows how poor some peoples understand of really basic concepts of reason and logic are. I also choose which processor is the best specifically in an attempt to make it easier for some people to understand that things like best, good, bad and even reasonableness changes with time, that reasonableness is not being judged on 1853 ideals as Angilion claimed. That reasonableness is, like i quoted, something that's "ordinarily" and 1853 is not ordinary in 2023 just like the best processor from 2003 is not the best processor in 2023.

Is the "best" processor currently available not subjective depending on what usage is most important to the purchaser or reviewer?

So what is the best processor?

 

[Chris Wilson]

Has making a pass at woman just become illegal?

Yeah it sounds like it has for you pal...

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