Has Tim Cook lost the plot?

Caged said:
They don't refresh the ranges every two weeks, but when a product line is new they are often amongst the first to get new chips in. To be honest, if a Macbook Air CPU has enough grunt for office apps then I'm not seeing the issue at all. It's a cheapish all in one system with a good display on it and decent build quality.

You could probably swap my work laptop out for something with the equivalent beans of an iPad Air and I wouldn't notice. It's literally a tool to remote into other systems and look at web pages.
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But how many people run office apps/programs on OSX?

The only place I could really see this being useful is as a cheap machine in receptions of design office, where having a Mac is important for image but where they use office apps alone. It may persuade some people to buy for personal use as well but those spending £900 must be a pretty small sector!
 
:confused: tons of people use Macs for nothing more demanding than Office, email and web browsing.

The list of people who would walk into an Apple Store and walk out with a £900 iMac and condiser it a bargain is probably quite long. It's a difficult situation to put yourself in because by finding an internet forum about computers and knowing what a CPU is you are already part of a tiny percentage of the population. This will sell, if people buy it and find it too slow then they can return it and get something else. But for a huge number of people it will be fine.
 
Caged said:
So in other words someone who is the exact opposite of "not very tech aware" and isn't buying their first iMac doesn't like it.

I don't really care either way actually, I'm not buying one because I need Windows for some of the stuff I do and there is no way that I'm buying a non-Apple laptop. I don't have any investment in Apple, I have no horse in this race. It will sell because it's an iMac. Some people will be more than happy with it. I'll leave the telling them they are wrong to you.
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So you don't own a Mac but feel qualified to comment? :eek:
 
If I owned an iMac, it wouldn't be used any differently to a Macbook, be it the Air or Pro. If I was after something with some power, i'd be looking at a Mac Pro or an alternative. I think that it's a smart move, as producing something that is easily capable or doing what 95% of people use their Mac for and giving a price reduction, will help Apple sell even more.

Just look at the low powered competition aimed at the people who only use a computer for emails, a few documents, photos and browsing the internet. They're selling well.

edit: The cheapest available to Uni students is also less than £800, with a 27" at £1275.
 
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Checking with someone who has access to the Apple education store (for institutions, not students) - its available for under £500 with no VAT when purchased in even moderate amounts (5 machines). It seems to me like Apple have made a machine for this market and just decided to offer it to everyone else - just because they can.
 
Faustus said:
You have defined one of the key components of a premium brand - glad you get the point.

You do however blot you copy book somewhat later in your post by your rather petulant comments. It hardly does you credit and is certainly not the best way to get your point across.
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I think you're mistaking petulance for a point of view you disagree with.
 
I wouldn't bother. OP comes in here, vents his spleen about Apple stuff he doesn't like as if he hates the brand (while owning and using one) then attempts to shout down those who disagree with his opinion then disappears for a couple of months.

As Caged said earlier - he'd be better off with a blog. Not sure what the target readership would be though.
 
It's an iMac; It's a premium computer. It's not just what goes in it that makes an iMac an iMac, it's the build quality too, and the support Apple gives and the excellent OSX.

I'm replacing my 2009 iMac with a top of the line new one. On the outside it will look like the cheapest of the 27" models. Do I care? No. Would I care if somebody else was using this new cheaper iMac? No, they've got a computer that's going to be suitable for what they do. If they need more power, and most people don't, then they'll need to get a better model from the range.

None of this means Tim Cook is losing the plot and it certainly doesn't make this iMac less of a premium product.
 
LordSplodge said:
It's an iMac; It's a premium computer. It's not just what goes in it that makes an iMac an iMac, it's the build quality too, and the support Apple gives and the excellent OSX.

I'm replacing my 2009 iMac with a top of the line new one. On the outside it will look like the cheapest of the 27" models. Do I care? No. Would I care if somebody else was using this new cheaper iMac? No, they've got a computer that's going to be suitable for what they do. If they need more power, and most people don't, then they'll need to get a better model from the range.

None of this means Tim Cook is losing the plot and it certainly doesn't make this iMac less of a premium product.
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Well if you say it doesn't that settles it then - it must be true. :D
 
MagicBoy said:
I wouldn't bother. OP comes in here, vents his spleen about Apple stuff he doesn't like as if he hates the brand (while owning and using one) then attempts to shout down those who disagree with his opinion then disappears for a couple of months.

As Caged said earlier - he'd be better off with a blog. Not sure what the target readership would be though.
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Err! am I missing something, isn't that what forums are all about - debate? It would be a pretty boring sort of forum if all anyone did is come on and write soothing words and agree with everyone else. :rolleyes:

My concern is simple - I don't want to see Apple take the brand down market by offering a crippled product. If Apple are trying to get new users to the brand then surely they should be doing so by offering something good in order to tempt the user in and keep them. Not offer some wheezing underpowered mobile solution.

I'm also most interested in where some of you get your info from - things like most users will only use their Macs for surfing and office apps, or 90% will only use them for surfing and office apps. Is this information from a bona-fide survey of some sort?
 
Faustus said:
My concern is simple - I don't want to see Apple take the brand down market by offering a crippled product. If Apple are trying to get new users to the brand then surely they should be doing so by offering something good in order to tempt the user in and keep them. Not offer some wheezing underpowered mobile solution.
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Money. Standards don't come into it. Good is the definition from the person who purchased it regardless of knowledge.
 
There's millions of people out there that only use their computers for nothing more taxing than office Facebook and YouTube

My wife being one she likes apples design and build quality and her rmbp is overkill for her needs

If we were in the market for a desktop machine I'd be all over this
 
233 said:
There's millions of people out there that only use their computers for nothing more taxing than office Facebook and YouTube

My wife being one she likes apples design and build quality and her rmbp is overkill for her needs

If we were in the market for a desktop machine I'd be all over this
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Hmm, I thought they weren't interested in computers. It was no longer the in thing? Since they can Facebook/Youtube on phones. Type letters on iPad's…
 
Why is it your concern where Apple go? Do you work for them? Do you own part of the company? Because if you don't this strange sense of having to look out for them seems a bit weird. I still don't agree with you that it is a crippled product in any way.

If Apple are irrelevant in 10 years it will be because they screwed up, either by releasing bad product or failing to keep up with a changing market and new competitors. If someone else came along with a product that is better at being a MacBook Pro running OS X than a MacBook Pro running OS X then I will change what I buy.

We don't know where the company is going or what decisions they are making, but I can guarantee you that releasing an iMac with specs that you don't personally like won't be their undoing.
 
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V F said:
Hmm, I thought they weren't interested in computers. It was no longer the in thing? Since they can Facebook/Youtube on phones. Type letters on iPad's…
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They seem to be intersted in whatever their friends are into

Mark my words a Apple launch a cheaper iMac it's going to be very very popular
It also paves the way for people to upgrade within the iMac family for a second iMac purchase or even their first

You end up in the apple store looking at a £700 iMac and then your told this far better one is Only another another £300 then another £200 then another £300 for the next tier up

People will buy more than they need once their in the door
 
233 said:
There's millions of people out there that only use their computers for nothing more taxing than office Facebook and YouTube

My wife being one she likes apples design and build quality and her rmbp is overkill for her needs

If we were in the market for a desktop machine I'd be all over this
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My response to that would be 'penny wise and pound foolish'.
 
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