Hatton Fight
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Aye they went on aggression. I thought he was very lucky. Collazo had him out on his feet near the end.
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Wow, I think Collazo outboxed Hatton, but his downfall was always holding back. Ricky had to make all the moves. I guess in Boston with Irish fighting heritage at the heart of the judges, it told, if you do't attack, no matter how well you counterpunch, you will not be allowed to win. Fair play to Collazo, he's a great and seriously underrated fighter.
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I agree. I think Hatton will need to do an awful lot of work if he's to fight Mayweather in the next year or so. He's quicker and stronger than Collazo and he'll be much harder to tag than Collazo was.SpeedFreak said:
Rickys biggest problem was not the step up, but the fact that Collazo was a Southpaw and Ricky was trying too hard. He got caught with the right so often that it gifted Collazo several rounds that an orthodox of similar ability would just not have won. He obviously needs to get a bit more strength, but against Mayweather I would have him no worse than 40:60.
Ricky was struggling tonight for some reason - he didnt look himself, he was very heavy on his feet, not working on the inside and not working as hard as he usually does.
Whether thats the step to welter taking its toll on his workrate or whether he just needs to grow into it, Im not sure, but I had Ricky up by 1 at the end, but Collazo put on a very good show with some slick punching (if not very effective at times).
Still ricky again has shown he can take a punch and has a good boxing brain to be able to function after a hit.
I still think 147 is the weight to take on PBF at though, as it has also had an effect on his speed and power. Still fancy Rick to take PBF (closely) at 147, but IMO steer away from Margarito for now (maybe in the future if he grows into the weight more)
Whether thats the step to welter taking its toll on his workrate or whether he just needs to grow into it, Im not sure, but I had Ricky up by 1 at the end, but Collazo put on a very good show with some slick punching (if not very effective at times).
Still ricky again has shown he can take a punch and has a good boxing brain to be able to function after a hit.
I still think 147 is the weight to take on PBF at though, as it has also had an effect on his speed and power. Still fancy Rick to take PBF (closely) at 147, but IMO steer away from Margarito for now (maybe in the future if he grows into the weight more)
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Have to admit Hatton was very very lucky, good thing lady luck was on his side. Callazo imho should have taken the win....Mayweather will batter Hatton if he fights the same way he did tonight.
Oh well lost some money on that fight
Oh well lost some money on that fight
Soldato
I've always said Hatton needed better competition than the softies he's been fighting this past few years.
It shows again that you have to cross the water to get the competition to give you a fight and Hatton got that and questionably won it.
Forget about Hatton's previous fights, it all started early this morning and could have been an upset.
Hatton has an awful lot of work to do if he wants to show his class now.
It shows again that you have to cross the water to get the competition to give you a fight and Hatton got that and questionably won it.
Forget about Hatton's previous fights, it all started early this morning and could have been an upset.
Hatton has an awful lot of work to do if he wants to show his class now.
Soldato
Scream said:
Tszyu was a much better fighter than Collazo no question. Hatton just does not have the style to deal with slick boxers, it's that simple. Styles make fights and Collazo had completely the wrong style for Hatton.
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Was a good fight, Ricky was a lucky lad. 
Respect to Collazo
Bar the last two, he's had poor competition which belies his strength and skills in the ring. He is most definitely world class and a handful for anyone in the division. This fight showed that. I believe he was just too quick on the counters and it left Hatton looking a bit one dimensional, which we know he isn't. Collazo is dangerous.
Respect to Hatton
He didn't train for the fighter he thought he was fighting. It wasn't a 140/147 issue, I just believe Collazo was badly misjudged. Despite this, on my card anyway, Hatton was one round up and that's with the 10-8 in the first so had it not been for that, a draw.
I think this fight is a good thing for Hatton. One he's learned that he has work to do so it was constructive for him but also, it means Mayweather may see this as another ringwalk and take Hatton earlier which I believe would be a mistake. I don't believe Hatton would look like he did last night against any other fighter in the division, it was purely Collazo.
As stoom said, Hatton looked like he was struggling, not his usual self but I'm not so sure. I just believe Collazo really was that good.
Bar the last two, he's had poor competition which belies his strength and skills in the ring. He is most definitely world class and a handful for anyone in the division. This fight showed that. I believe he was just too quick on the counters and it left Hatton looking a bit one dimensional, which we know he isn't. Collazo is dangerous.
Respect to Hatton
He didn't train for the fighter he thought he was fighting. It wasn't a 140/147 issue, I just believe Collazo was badly misjudged. Despite this, on my card anyway, Hatton was one round up and that's with the 10-8 in the first so had it not been for that, a draw.
I think this fight is a good thing for Hatton. One he's learned that he has work to do so it was constructive for him but also, it means Mayweather may see this as another ringwalk and take Hatton earlier which I believe would be a mistake. I don't believe Hatton would look like he did last night against any other fighter in the division, it was purely Collazo.
As stoom said, Hatton looked like he was struggling, not his usual self but I'm not so sure. I just believe Collazo really was that good.
Collazo was good, no doubt - much better than I expected I have to admit, but rick seemed out of gas - something didnt seem right - even Billy graham seemed a bit down and wasnt kicking rickys ass as much as he usually does in the corner.
Tbh, at times it looked like Rickys mind was elsewhere.
Still it does show he can take a fair old whacking and still have his wits about him, as although Collazo hurt him, he never really had Ricky in trouble as much as the screaming commentators would like to think.
Not taking anything away from a terrific Collazo performance, arguably that was ricks worst performance to date - maybe on par with his Vilches one imo.
Still onto bigger and better things, winner of Castillo/Corrales at 140 seems ricks preferred opponent. Of course I would imagine he is going to relinquish his new belt too as the WBA ordered a mandatory with Urkal within 130 days that HBO will want no part of really - still no bad thing in the days that belts are flung around left right and centre with super champions/paper champions etc etc
Tbh, at times it looked like Rickys mind was elsewhere.
Still it does show he can take a fair old whacking and still have his wits about him, as although Collazo hurt him, he never really had Ricky in trouble as much as the screaming commentators would like to think.
Not taking anything away from a terrific Collazo performance, arguably that was ricks worst performance to date - maybe on par with his Vilches one imo.
Still onto bigger and better things, winner of Castillo/Corrales at 140 seems ricks preferred opponent. Of course I would imagine he is going to relinquish his new belt too as the WBA ordered a mandatory with Urkal within 130 days that HBO will want no part of really - still no bad thing in the days that belts are flung around left right and centre with super champions/paper champions etc etc
Completely agree. Hatton is rock solid. He has so much stamina and recovery ability that I can't see any fighter stopping him. He'll get counts no doubt but the 10 seconds breather he gets is all Ricky needs to keep going. I watched the fight again and as Ricky said, I felt it was the weight of the punches that moved him about, not the fact he was shot and ready to fall. As mentioned, if he did touch down, he's too strong not to get back up and carry on.StooM said:
Edit:/ I scored it Hatton 114 - Collazo 113 so had the first round 10-8 not happened I'd have it as a draw.
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i thought the match was thoroughly entertaining but i cold barely watch the last round as i thought collazo was going to knock ricky down.
I personally think on that performance it would be a bad idea for ricky to jump between the weight classes, i think it would be better for him to either stay at 147 or go back down and stay at 140.
I personally think on that performance it would be a bad idea for ricky to jump between the weight classes, i think it would be better for him to either stay at 147 or go back down and stay at 140.
Soldato
I scored it 114-113 marking the last as a 10-9 to Collazo because he didnt finish the good work at the start of the round which would have made the fight a draw.
Pigeon Killer you cant have a 10-10 in Boston
Historically Hatton struggles against the lefty he lost a few amatuer fights to leftys and the only one he fought at pro was Hutchinson and he came with his problems as well.
He needs to stear clear of a rematch.
Pigeon Killer you cant have a 10-10 in Boston
Historically Hatton struggles against the lefty he lost a few amatuer fights to leftys and the only one he fought at pro was Hutchinson and he came with his problems as well.
He needs to stear clear of a rematch.