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Redman said:
Dont forget why she was there in the first place. Sleeping off a night on the lash in her car, and failing to give a breath test. As far as I'm aware being drunk in a car, and in possession of the keys accounts to being drunk and in charge of the vehicle, asleep or not.
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No evidence she was drunk, or even was asked to provide a breath test.

The only claim of this came from the officer who assaulted her. Is it unreasonable to presume he came up with this story to cover himself after realising the trouble he could have gotten himself into?
 
Redman said:
Dont forget why she was there in the first place. Sleeping off a night on the lash in her car, and failing to give a breath test. As far as I'm aware being drunk in a car, and in possession of the keys accounts to being drunk and in charge of the vehicle, asleep or not.

Drunk, uncooperative woman dragged to cell when she refuses to walk and use her own legs.
Or brutal man dragging the poor innocent woman to a cell because he's a bad cop.
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We reading different articles?
 
Should get the sack no pension no benefits nothing, you do that in any other job and you are sacked so I don't see any difference.
 
Redman said:
Dont forget why she was there in the first place. Sleeping off a night on the lash in her car, and failing to give a breath test. As far as I'm aware being drunk in a car, and in possession of the keys accounts to being drunk and in charge of the vehicle, asleep or not.

Drunk, uncooperative woman dragged to cell when she refuses to walk and use her own legs.
Or brutal man dragging the poor innocent woman to a cell because he's a bad cop.

The choice is yours and likely depends on how much bother you've had with the law yourself, and therefore what preconceived opinions you hold. The truth as always will be shades of grey.
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I just said this on another forum, there are horses for courses, i spent 10 years throwing drunk people out of nightclubs without the aid of handcuffs and without resorting to this with women.

If that man cant between him and a workmate put a pension age, drunk woman in a cell in a civilised manor, he is not up to doing the job, i hope he gets plenty of stick doing his 3 months if he gets a bit of porridge.
 
I don't think it was that bad, just unfortunate she hit her head.

There is a lot you don't know I'd imagine, people saying she refused to give breath tests and may have been awkward and so on.

Definitely a bit heavy handed though.
 
Robboftw said:
I don't think it was that bad, just unfortunate she hit her head.

There is a lot you don't know I'd imagine, people saying she refused to give breath tests and may have been awkward and so on.

Definitely a bit heavy handed though.
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What difference does it make what she did, what can she possibly have done to deserve that with 8 or how ever many supposedly trained officers standing watching?

Are you telling me 2 of those coppers could not have just picked her up an arm each and put her in a cell?

She's nearly 60, you dont rant at 60 year old women then drag them along the floor and **** them in a cell.
 
DiamondMark said:
What difference does it make what she did, what can she possibly have done to deserve that with 8 or how ever many supposedly trained officers standing watching?

Are you telling me 2 of those coppers could not have just picked her up an arm each and put her in a cell?

She's nearly 60, you dont rant at 60 year old women then drag them along the floor and **** them in a cell.
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I completely agree, it was heavy handed and the people watching should have assisted.
 
kgi said:
All I can see is a cop dragging a complete drunk woman into a cell as she is not cooperating. He then throws her in the cell where she hits her face and bleeds.
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How do you know she was "a complete drunk" ??? it stated that she was asleep in her car and was suspected, thats SUSPECTED, not proven, to be drunk. and even if she was the way she was treated was a disgrace. if you think his behaviour was right then i hope you also find yourself in a situation like hers, maybe then you wont be so callous about it.

Can't really see much wrong with that, it was unfortunate that she hurt herself but accidents happen.
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She didn't hurt herself at all, it was the ***** that threw her face first into the cell, as for accidents happen yes they do, but not in this case. that was deliberate.

As for the language he is using, I can't understand what's the problem with it as I can't understand why they are not broadcasting what the "victim" has been telling the PC before he replied to her. He told her to shut up - omg, shock horror... - can't see what the fuss is about.
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How about unprofessional? he's in a position of authority and he chose to abuse it, regardless of what she may or may not have said, it's irrelevant.
 
LOL I thought I recognised that room! Bad times when they found my kingskins in my wallet when searching me!

Falsely accused of supplying by that station I was :(
 
It was suspected that she was drunk but not proven. Afaik only the police officer who has been charged said that was the reason and it was his partner that notified about the brutality afterwards.

And even if she was drunk, you don't throw someone head first into a cell.
 
DiamondMark said:
Its not even what hes doing, its the way hes talking to her from the get go, how does a complete **** like that ever make it to a position of authority?
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That's because 90% of the population has no idea how to act when put in a position of authority. Coppers included.
 
When he threw her in the cell, was she knocked unconscious temporally? That was terrible watching the blood trickle out over the cell floor.
 
DisrupTor75 said:
How do you know she was "a complete drunk" ??? it stated that she was asleep in her car and was suspected, thats SUSPECTED, not proven, to be drunk. and even if she was the way she was treated was a disgrace. if you think his behaviour was right then i hope you also find yourself in a situation like hers, maybe then you wont be so callous about it.
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I saw it on BBC, they said she was found sleeping in her car and refused to take a breathanalyser test. If you want to philosophise about it go ahead, but to me that means she was drunk. My view is also reaffirmed by the fact that she was obviously uncooperative and had to be dragged to her cell.

His behaviour was fine, he was dealing with an uncooperative drunk person. The PC dragged the said person and threw them in a cell.

DisrupTor75 said:
She didn't hurt herself at all, it was the ***** that threw her face first into the cell, as for accidents happen yes they do, but not in this case. that was deliberate.
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Take a deep breath will you? He threw her in the cell. Saying that he threw her face into the cell with intent on her hurting herself is silly. Do you actually think that PCs out there get a kick out of throwing senior citizens face first down a concrete floor? She was drunk and that's why she hurt herself.


DisrupTor75 said:
How about unprofessional? he's in a position of authority and he chose to abuse it, regardless of what she may or may not have said, it's irrelevant.
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I can't see the abuse. He is in authority and he is dealing with a drunk uncooperative person. He has to wrap it up quickly so that he can get back to the beat and catch criminals. I would be infuriated to see the PC actually debating getting into the cell with the said "victim" until she was sobber, knowing that I'm paying him to babysit drunkards.

In my book, if you're drunk and the police get you it's tough. You'd better cooperate or they will use reasonable force to arrest you and detain you. If you get hurt in the process accidentally (as is this case) then by all means file a complaint and a law suit and what you feel like. If it's proven that there was intent then the PC should be sacked without pay and taken to court. However, I cannot see this in the video which is nicely edited to start with the PC shouting at her to shut up. It'd be interesting to see all the previous discussion and efforts to get her to cooperate before you had to use reasonable force.
 
From a complete outsider's perspective, I think there is a bit of a problem in the police force. I think it breeds a feeling of superiority, and it leads to situations such as this.

I think something should be done to remind police officers that they are actually serving society as a whole. The feeling towards that woman shouldn't have been one of disdain or that she was subject to the complete control and authority of the sergeant, but that he was there as a person to help, and that she is no less of a person than he.
 
so she possibly had too much to drink and decided sleep in her car because she wasn't in a fit state to drive(if she had been drinking that is).
is sleeping in your car a crime ?
 
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