Have a look at this.

^TANK^ · 5 Sep 2010 at 16:50

DiamondMark said:
Tank you seem a reasonable bloke, are you telling me, that you and i couldnt pick that lady up and place her in a cell?

I dont care what shes doing, with an arm each shes going nowhere except where we put her.

How did she need dragging anywhere?

Tell me im wrong and lost the plot.

No you're are completely right, two of them could have easily of picked her up! The officer in question was obviously ****** off with her.

Burnsy2023 · 5 Sep 2010 at 16:50

DiamondMark said:
Do you think its wrong he should face a charge then?

Absolutely. And he has been charged with ABH. just needs to goto court. If he's convicted, he WILL be dismissed.

Tefal · 5 Sep 2010 at 16:50

Burnsy2023 said:
The SGT in question was reported by a fellow PC and is very likely facing dismissal, but don't let that stop a good police bashing. He's also looking at a ABH conviction too.

Good to see the other officer waited until he'd smashed **** out of an old woman before acting.

Wouldn't want him to put himself in harms way now would we.

Fr0dders · 5 Sep 2010 at 16:57

^TANK^ said:
I have also noticed in Road Wars they use more Police officers in controlling an assailant, due to more control and less chance of anyone getting hurt.

I commented the same further up. Procedure appears to be to carry them. Which makes sense as theres less chance of anybody getting hurt.

^TANK^ said:
No you're are completely right, two of them could have easily of picked her up! The officer in question was obviously ****** off with her.

He lost his rag because she was being argumentative and drunk no doubt.

Tefal said:
Good to see the other officer waited until he'd smashed **** out of an old woman before acting.

Wouldn't want him to put himself in harms way now would we.

that person was most probably reporting her superior - in fact now that i say that. I'm sure a read that the woman who dobbed him in was a PCSO.

So what female is going to feel confident to confront an angry and physically abusive superior ?

not many.

VoG · 5 Sep 2010 at 16:58

Burnsy2023 said:
The SGT in question was reported by a fellow PC and is very likely facing dismissal, but don't let that stop a good police bashing. He's also looking at a ABH conviction too.

that is rather telling tho, that another police officer should find his conduct so unnacceptable, that he reported him to his superiors.

Fr0dders · 5 Sep 2010 at 16:59

SHE reported him.

remember that.

He praised the officer who had reported the incident, saying she had "performed her duty in accordance with the highest standards expected of a police officer in bringing this unacceptable incident to the attention of another supervisor".

Tefal · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:01

MrLOL said:
that person was most probably reporting her superior - in fact now that i say that. I'm sure a read that the woman who dobbed him in was a PCSO.

So what female is going to feel confident to confront an angry and physically abusive superior ?

not many.

And the other five mostly male officers all stood there watching?

Plus their supposed to be trained to diffuse situations, she wouldn't need to "confront " him just for one of them to make up some BS task and wonder over and say "Hey XXX needs help with can you sort that, I'll take her to the cell".

JBuk · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:01

Disgraceful of the officer and those that stood by and watched tbh

and some people trying to justify his behaviour because she was drunk and being uncooperative /shrugs

Fr0dders · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:02

the guy quite obviously blew a gasket and lost his rag.

You dont get to be a custody sergeant overnight so he's obviously been in the force a while. I'm not surprised many didnt confront him. Most wouldnt.

Tefal · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:02

MrLOL said:
SHE reported him.

remember that.

So only 1 out of 5 police officers found this unacceptable? :confused:

DM · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:07

Tefal said:
So only 1 out of 5 police officers found this unacceptable?

Thats what makes you wonder.

See i dont think these are normal work mate problems, i know my office girls wont grass each other up if one nicks a fiver from petty cash because she wants a cab home, they all do it.

Coppers have a duty to step up, and if that means being unpopular, well lifes hard, them standing watching is not a good thing to see.

Being a copper is a job like no other as far as im concerned, you cant turn a blind eye to things like this, and then arrest people for doing the same thing in a pub fight, what the **** is that about.

Fr0dders · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:07

how do you know that ?

You don't know that they all found it unacceptable and discussed it amongst themselves, and she volunteered to be the one to do it.

Doesn't take all 5 of them to report it ...

JBuk · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:13

MrLOL said:
how do you know that ?

You don't know that they all found it unacceptable and discussed it amongst themselves, and she volunteered to be the one to do it.

Doesn't take all 5 of them to report it ...

Whilst that is possible I find it unlikely imo

Tefal · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:13

Why would they agree upon the least senior among them reporting it?

I'd expect such a duty to fall to the most high ranking.

Also if they all found it unacceptable why did non of the other big blokes step up and intervene?

Tummy · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:14

^TANK^ · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:15

Tummy said:
Meh.

Thats what she said.

Fr0dders · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:16

because stepping in front of your superior and confronting them is an awkward thing. I've seen it happen when a boss loses their rag and nobody wants to be the one to do it.

Even more so if they are in a state of shock because its somebody they've known for a while and its maybe uncharacteristic of them.

You obviously disagree, but i dont think its the case that all the officers thought it was fine and only said something after one of them got an attack of the conscience

Burnsy2023 · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:16

VoG said:
that is rather telling tho, that another police officer should find his conduct so unnacceptable, that he reported him to his superiors.

Of course it's telling. I doubt there are any officers that can really condone his actions. As for the other officers, I don't know if they knew the full story and it does take a lot of courage to report your supervisor for such an incident. It was the force that he used putting her in the cell rather than anything else that crossed the line of acceptance.

JBuk · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:16

Burnsy2023 said:
Absolutely. And he has been charged with ABH. just needs to goto court. If he's convicted, he WILL be dismissed.

He has already been convicted, he's going to be sentenced on Tuesday

Tummy · 5 Sep 2010 at 17:18

I just don't understand the huge up roar about this.

Police officer, gets ****ed off with a ****ed up (probably abusive) woman, drags her to a cell chucks her in. (yeah maybe a bit tough on her but ah well 6 of one, half a dozen of the other) She lands badly, hurts her head.

I like this country, Police aren't nearly as rough / bad / corrupt as elsewhere in the world. Don't really see the fuss.