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HD 6900's Here!

well with the 5850/70 going up in price just after launch i don't blame gibbo for buying in as many as he could...:D
 
bru said:
well with the 5850/70 going up in price just after launch i don't blame gibbo for buying in as many as he could...:D
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Most of the increase in price was retailers fighting on stock and gouging and not great supply.

Remember this time last year TSMC had 9k wafers a month in production, they lost 3k of that and around 6 weeks supply of wafers which means they were actually at effectively 6k wafers a month for most of August through Jan, at which point the stupid prices were established. 6k wafers was split between AMD/Nvidia and the majority would be on lower end stuff in huge numbers.

At the moment I believe TSMC are around 25-30k wafers a month, with more products of course, but higher yields and at the moment at least, no incredibly unlucky, badly timed AMD effecting catastrophic failure in some of the machinery. Stock should basically pour out at a MUCH higher rate than the 58xx cards ever did, so I would suggest anyone who raised the price was trying their luck rather than fighting over ridiculously low stock ;)

Stock should still sell out, think of it this way, if you can produce 10k a week, for launch you'll often stockpile 60-100k and push through higher than usual amount of wafers to build up stock, so you get 100k one week, and 10k a week after that at some stage you'll sell out.

Difference was last year that 10k a week dried up for the best part of 12 weeks thanks to TSMC screwing up massively.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Most of the increase in price was retailers fighting on stock and gouging and not great supply.

Remember this time last year TSMC had 9k wafers a month in production, they lost 3k of that and around 6 weeks supply of wafers which means they were actually at effectively 6k wafers a month for most of August through Jan, at which point the stupid prices were established. 6k wafers was split between AMD/Nvidia and the majority would be on lower end stuff in huge numbers.

At the moment I believe TSMC are around 25-30k wafers a month, with more products of course, but higher yields and at the moment at least, no incredibly unlucky, badly timed AMD effecting catastrophic failure in some of the machinery. Stock should basically pour out at a MUCH higher rate than the 58xx cards ever did, so I would suggest anyone who raised the price was trying their luck rather than fighting over ridiculously low stock ;)

Stock should still sell out, think of it this way, if you can produce 10k a week, for launch you'll often stockpile 60-100k and push through higher than usual amount of wafers to build up stock, so you get 100k one week, and 10k a week after that at some stage you'll sell out.

Difference was last year that 10k a week dried up for the best part of 12 weeks thanks to TSMC screwing up massively.
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I can't speak for our competitors but we won't be running out and we shall be aiming to be the most competively price on the 6900 cards. :)
 
are those dongles in stock? that allow to you do eyefinity with x3 DVI monitors? if so im a ditching my 460's for one of the 6970's, this'll be the first time i'll of had a Radeon since the 9800pro
 
are those dongles in stock? that allow to you do eyefinity with x3 DVI monitors? if so im a ditching my 460's for one of the 6970's, this'll be the first time i'll of had a Radeon since the 9800pro
 
Gibbo said:
I can't speak for our competitors but we won't be running out and we shall be aiming to be the most competively price on the 6900 cards. :)
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Nice to hear, I really don't want to sound mean, but OCUK do say that quite a lot yet aren't actually that competitive in general. THe odd product like £165 470gtx's is really VERY very good, but in terms of 99% of the time I want to buy something and can't wait for the one/two weeks when you have an exceptional deal OCUk is rarely the cheapest place.

Personally I would prefer overall better prices in general and less one off "killer deals".

I would suggest though from your stock that, well it rather backs up the idea that stock will be plentiful worldwide if you have "that" much. Its even quite possible these cards could have been released a few weeks ago in 580gtx type quantities for the first few weeks, but when they heard Nvidia were going to jump the gun and do a, I think we need a new term for pretending to be a hard launch with realistically smeg all stock or ability to keep pumping them out. Anyway they might have realised Nvidia were going to look like idiots releasing a year old product, finally fully enabled, and they STILL can't provide a proper number of them, then come in when 580gtx stock is gone and put out 50-100k of their own cards before Xmas.

I think the best way to put it is in reality TSMC has the ability to produce 4-5 times as many cards as they did for the 58xx launch, the main thing will be how much of their allocation at TSMC they put towards the new card. The fact that even Fud says there will be good supply makes me think everyone will have a bunch of them.

Its strange though, I've got that urge to buy a new card, but because we really have no real idea where these cards will end up, and what the specs of the 6950 are vs the 6970, I have no idea if I will buy, or what I might buy.

If the 6950/6970 have the same split as last gen, 10% shader, but bigger clock difference, for the overclocker that means great value, clock to same speeds, 10% difference. If they are going for closer clock speeds and a fairly large shader difference, the 6950 might not be particularly good value.

IE the 5870, clock for clock, cost 50% more for 10% performance, poop, the 6970 could be 20% faster clock for clock, and only 25-30% more expensive, more likely to have better cooling/heatsink size.
 
Gibbo said:
I can't speak for our competitors but we won't be running out and we shall be aiming to be the most competively price on the 6900 cards. :)
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Can you just makes sure that they are not £350 inc otherwise I'll be eating my hat.........and it's chewy so I'd like to avoid that. Thanks. :p
 
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