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HD 7000-series GPUs which are reportedly scheduled to make their entrance on December 5

MichaelM said:
I wonder what they will do for the 2nd hand 6970 market...
They must be crippled in some way with memory timings, interface, something! please!!! :p
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Still be a good number of people looking for a 2nd card for crossfire tho so demand and hence prices won't drop out completely.
 
wont cripple for a while though will it as people who have the newer card wont be selling them and most wouldnt upgrade from a 6970 to one so not for first 4 to 6 months tbh.

look at launch of new cards and where they are priced it wont be lower than two hundred quid.
 
Hopeful 7970's get released at a similar price point to the 6970's. Can't find it in GBP but the 6970's were $369USD upon release (around £300) gradually dropping closer to the £260 mark.

If so and the performance is all its cracked up to be, provided I can get around £300 for my 6950's I may very well move up to a pair of 7970's and who knows, maybe even eyefinity or 1440p.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
lol if you think thats gunna be 155 time to wake up :D

why would they sell you a card as fast as a card they sell for twice the price :confused: makes no sense. it will be 200 quid minimum
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Makes perfect sense to me, technology is moving forwards, people run higher resolution screens / multiple screens so need the higher power cards so the would still be looking at buying a possible 79xx card where as us living in the past with 1080p screens can be happy with 78xx

However slightly contradicting myself the price performance release in the uk is all speculation, my nans guess is as good as anybodies!
 
pgi947 said:
Hopeful 7970's get released at a similar price point to the 6970's. Can't find it in GBP but the 6970's were $369USD upon release (around £300) gradually dropping closer to the £260 mark.

If so and the performance is all its cracked up to be, provided I can get around £300 for my 6950's I may very well move up to a pair of 7970's and who knows, maybe even eyefinity or 1440p.
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Highly up likely. The 6970 was released on a very mature process with good yields. From what we have heard the cost of 28nm wafers will be higher for both AMD and Nvidia and of course on top of that yields will be much lower-probably until well into the second 1/2 of next year.
 
Rroff said:
Still be a good number of people looking for a 2nd card for crossfire tho so demand and hence prices won't drop out completely.
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Yes, but if a 6970 is going to cost you £150, and a 7950 will cost you £220, then very few people will bother going xfire, when they can sell their card for £100, buy a £220 new card, have spent LESS and have similar performance from a single card solution that uses half as much power.

While demand for those who want to xfire will be there, if the cards are too expensive, there won't be any point and people will just make the move on to the new gen cards anyway.

Now if a second hand 6970(or more likely 6950) is £100-120, and you already had one card, then its more of an option, though personally I'd still move on.

It only really made sense last gen for people to pick up 2nd hand 5850/5870's for xfire, because they got so cheap and the 6970 wasn't much faster at all, but again look at that pricing, EOL pricing on 5850's, £110-120, second hand prices, even less, and that was when the next gen wasn't 80% faster ;)

~>Dg<~ said:
wont cripple for a while though will it as people who have the newer card wont be selling them and most wouldnt upgrade from a 6970 to one so not for first 4 to 6 months tbh.

look at launch of new cards and where they are priced it wont be lower than two hundred quid.
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Sorry, complete horsecrap.

What did the 5770 launch at, was it over £200, just because of some nonsense reason you came up with? did the 6870 launch at around the same cost as the 5870 was, circa £300? No, when will people stop posting without thinking AT ALL.

Take your logic, apply it to every single new generation which is 80% faster.... now, are cards currently £10k new? No, then the prices don't go up massively every generation, and every generation we do infact get 70-80% faster cards FOR THE SAME PRICE. This has happened for over 15 years. But this gen they'll price the midrange at the old high end range, just because?


The Ivybridge, gpu, general hardware threads of late are full of these completely illogical posts. Pretty much the entire point of new generations is to REPLACE the line up with new GPU's that are faster, and reach performance unobtainable on the old process. A 580gtx is roughly speaking the same physical size as a 280gtx, but its got basically twice the transistors and is 80% faster.... both were around the £400 mark at launch.

If Intel, AMD, old ATi, Nvidia, Samsung, Apple, etc, etc, if they don't keep offering more performance for the same money, people won't upgrade, and they become companies that have a product no one wants.

Imagine if Intel sell a 2500k to EVERYONE on the planet...... now what would make them upgrade, a new gen that offered the same performance at the same price point? No, a new generation that offered a 50-80% speed increase, for the SAME price they paid last time..... eventually everyone would upgrade to it.

The entire tech industry is based around REDUCING the price for a given performance or quality level, to sell more of whatever the hell it is.
 
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look at pricing of the point it will be at in terms of speed it( 7870) will be like every other card released at about 200 unless its a top end card which are always over 300

the 7870 that replaces the 6970 will be at best two hundred quid bookmark this and watch ;) no chance in hell of it being 155 guarenteed
 
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~>Dg<~ said:
look at pricing of the point it will be at in terms of speed it( 7870) will be like every other card released at about 200 unless its a top end card which are always over 300

the 7870 that replaces the 6970 will be at best two hundred quid bookmark this and watch ;) no chance in hell of it being 155 guarenteed
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Complete horsecrap, again, how much was the 6970, £270........ they are ALWAYS over £300 are they? 5870, £299, 6870, always £200 really? because it launched at £160-170.

You're talking complete and utter rubbish, and every single piece of info out there confirms it.

The 560ti came out well under £200, as did the 460gtx iirc, the 4870 came out at under £200, the 4850 was £130 and the 4670, the then midend was under £100.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
haha gunna laugh hard when 7870 comes out in feb and its 200 quid ;)
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Then what will be the price of the 7950? £250? and the 7970? £350?

Not out of the realm of possibility I guess, but it would probably do AMD more harm than good if they did, after all the 6900s were direct replacements for the 5800s and they took on the same prices, despite being more expensive to produce (bigger die size and more memory).

I'm going to go for prices keeping at the brackets they are now.
 
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