HD vs Bluray.....Your speculation..

You must also consider that pretty much everyone from 2-3 year olds to 100year olds know what a "DVD" is.

Also, a lot of people know now what "HD" also is, or a lot of people think they do anyway.

Therefore, "HD DVD" - Everybody will know what it is.

"BluRay" on the other hand. Not as many people will know what that is. I am not talking about us lot who discuss in here. I am talking about the average person. You would be suprised as to how little they know. Scarf leads and Digical boxes for a start...
 
For the people saying Blueray, why need 200gig ?

Pron ? :p

Or MegaPron :D

if HD-DVD can start with 30gig and ramp up to 60 gig dual layer and its cheaper to produce/sell then it will beat blueray I reckon....

Personaly I cant wait cos 4.4gig is nothing, id prefer to have the entire TV series loaded onto one disc or LOTR the extended trilogy all on one disc too.
 
HighlandeR said:
if HD-DVD can start with 30gig and ramp up to 60 gig dual layer and its cheaper to produce/sell then it will beat blueray I reckon....
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30GB is the dual layer offering
 
Watch a standard DVD (even a well produced one) on a hi res 40" screen or bigger and you will see easily why consumers need one or both of these discs

My eyes arent perfect and even I can see the line structure on a big screen where the detail is just not there - with HD-DVD / Blu ray there will be a blatent difference - and while 40" screens are currently pretty expensive they wont be in a few years time.


Blu-ray wont be widely known about currently but by the end of the year (PS3 anyone?) it will be on the 6 & 9 Oclock news all over the place and will be known and talked about in average families due to the branding as much as anything.

30GB for the HD-DVD is already dual layer and with three layers the laser looses focus supposedly so 60Gb is out of the question

I believe dual format players ARE coming to market - they may not be in the first wave of units is all.

There will be a lot more content on the discs than just a film - its reckoned there will be info on film locations / mobile phones or gadgets used in that film / whatever you care to mention all with live feeds from the web etc (static and live info) but presented in less laborious ways than currently available thru dvd

I personally hope blu -ray wins, but they both have their good and bad points
 
Goatboy said:
That's a shockingly poor comparison.
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lol - why? Somone is questionning the capacity of the new media and whether or not there's a need for it. Perhaps it may not be the case now but may will be in the near future.

Some people question the necessity for fast CPUs/GPUs without considering what's on the horizon which may well demand the extra cache or speed.

I genuinely found your post quite amusing though - shockingly so in fact :)
 
bluray as it is mainly pimpped by sony will be expensive as it will probably become another Sony proprietry format that will cost the earth, just look at UMD
 
MrMoon said:
bluray as it is mainly pimpped by sony will be expensive as it will probably become another Sony proprietry format that will cost the earth, just look at UMD
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The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) is responsible for establishing format standards and promoting and further developing business opportunities for Blu-ray Disc. The BDA succeeds the Blu-ray Disc Founders (BDF), and was formed on October 4, 2004. The BDA has more than 90 members.

Its board of directors consists of:

Apple Computer
Dell
Hewlett Packard
Hitachi
LG Electronics
Mitsubishi Electric
Panasonic (Matsushita Electric)
Pioneer Corporation
Royal Philips Electronics
Samsung Electronics
Sharp Corporation
Sony Corporation
TDK Corporation
Thomson
Twentieth Century Fox
Walt Disney Pictures
Warner Home Video Inc
 
A question that I'm unsure of, but what format will the video files be in?
I'm guessing that both the HD-DVD and BR disks will have the same type of file format for films.
In which case, we're not really talking about formats anymore, just how big the data storage area is for each media type.
Assuming that to be the case, then BR does seem to make a lot of sense.
 
No doubt BR is a better technology in the long run, but HD is a far more feasable and efficient way of doing things, and is far further down the development line than BR is. This is the same as betamax and VHS, to a T. I wont get either until it all settles down and it's clear which one's going to stay.
 
Domo said:
lol - why? Somone is questionning the capacity of the new media and whether or not there's a need for it. Perhaps it may not be the case now but may will be in the near future.
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The only difference capacity will make is the length of film you can put on it, picture and sound quality are limited by hardware constraints so the only scope for improvement is putting 12 hours on the disc instead of 10.

Some people question the necessity for fast CPUs/GPUs without considering what's on the horizon which may well demand the extra cache or speed.
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See above, more space won't mean anything gets better. You're missing the point that these new formats are the replacements for DVD-Video, their success or failure is down solely to films, speed is not relevant.

I genuinely found your post quite amusing though - shockingly so in fact :)
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I'm pleased you're easily amused.
 
Quantic said:
Goatboy, I'm guessing by your comments that you have already purchased a HD DVD Player and trying to justify your purchase? :p
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I don't have either and have no plans to purchase either, just stating the facts.
 
Having seen HD-DVD it is stunning, blows all other HD ive seen out of the water. While watching it it was commented that we could find no faults - speaks volumes.

However it takes an age to boot up, getting on for a min - felt like an hour ;)

Also have a gander on the hd-dvd/bd folder on AVF - initial BD movies are mpeg 2 and very poor, miles behind hd-dvd in terms of pic quality. Build quality of the Samsung is poor (its also twice as much as the Tosh HD-dvd and cant do the dual layer BD discs)

Until there are decent BD players out (Sony and Pioneer next) and films encoded in vc1/mpeg4 BD is currently behind HD-DVD in IQ + price + films on the shelf. Obv this could change but BD has certinally had a poor start.

Im not too fussed who wins, i will pick up a HD-DVD player as they are so cheap, if BD wins out in the end i will pick up a BD player when they work properly and price has fallen. Part of me is willing BD to fail as i dislike Sony - but im not going to ignore a format if it delivers.
 
I hope bluray wins because its the better technology and more future proof, its a shame to see such a poor increase in space from HD DVD and i think they should have more, ignoring what type of data is on the disk more space, bandwidth and faster speeds is better for everyone in the long run.
 
Goatboy said:
I don't have either and have no plans to purchase either, just stating the facts.
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You're not stating the facts, you're giving an opinion, and a bias one at that ;)
Which is fair enough of course!
 
I must have missed that since as far as I know everything I said is true, the only bias I've seen in this thread was the first post I responded to which was full of holes.

I'll buy whatever turns out to be the best format, BD has the greater potential but then we all know that Beatamax pooped all over VHS.
 
i think personally the 2 standards will co-exist

they have co-existed in DVD+R and DVD-R for a while now without problems

whose to say that after 2 years sony and toshiba will realise neither will "win" and trys to collaberate so that their players play each others disk, thus making the consumer choice easy, thus increasing revenue

winners all round !
 
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