Yes this is my experience too (no Dolby vision though). It’s interesting that the Oled owners (not all) don’t seem as impressed. Never gamed on an oled in hdr but wonder if I’d find it a bit lacking after being used to 1400 nits peak brightness? Who knows and I’m sure if I had an oled I’d be blown away by it. Don’t want to start this into any silly my c*cks bigger than yours type post though. Merely just surprised that some with an oled aren’t seeing the massive difference when gaming between the same game in hdr and sdr.
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Yes this is my experience too (no Dolby vision though). It’s interesting that the Oled owners (not all) don’t seem as impressed. Never gamed on an oled in hdr but wonder if I’d find it a bit lacking after being used to 1400 nits peak brightness? Who knows and I’m sure if I had an oled I’d be blown away by it. Don’t want to start this into any silly my c*cks bigger than yours type post though. Merely just surprised that some with an oled aren’t seeing the massive difference when gaming between the same game in hdr and sdr.
Looking at you Senuas sacrifice on PS4 pro! Haha
The first game I played on my 4k OLED was Ryse Son of Rome. My eyes bled with joy at the vibrancy of colour and the clear cut contrast of the imagery. I had to research online whether it was a HDR game because that's what it felt like. My minds eye of HDR, from all the online hyperbole around it, was what I felt I was seeing. It's not a HDR game.
So OLED already ramps up colour vibrancy to an insane level compared to non-OLEDs, which only leaves the dark/bright features of HDR to stand-out. And it's a mixed bag of efficacy.
I might be picking up a PS4 Pro tomorrow to test further.
HZD is a real hdr standout and God Of War. Look flat without it. Tbf though to get the benefit your settings need to be set flat (calibrated) so colours are accurate in non-hdr mode. Otherwise they will appear more vibrant as they’ll be over saturated.
There's some FALD panels do better at HDR than 10 bit.
I wondered when someone would bring this up. The only real difference between my photos and what I saw with my own eyes was the Destiny image, which I already accounted for.
As for Netflix not being a great source of hdr, shame on them for not calibrating their 1s and 0s like a dedicated piece of media that gets put in a dedicated box would.
Wait, what?
Mate HDR will not be visible on non HDR TVs displays, you could capture an HDR image but people wouldn’t see it unless they have an hdr device. Same with videos
You could capture an hdr video upload to YouTube and only those with hdr displays will see hdr
Rather than generalise, take a look at my photos and call them out. As said, there is little to no difference between what I've posted and what can be seen with your own eyes.
Also interested in some rationale as to why Netflix HDR is not as good as physical media devices.
Can you please take a photo of your games with and without HDR for us? I am really interested to discuss what is being lost in translation.
FALD is the backlight method used a FALD tv is an LCD panel with a Full Array Local Dimming tech. The LCD is still the same. Do you mean they do better at HDR than OLED ?
Given that HDR is meant to be an expansion in the colour palette from 8 bit to 10 bit, logically it would follow that like for like an HDR video will require a higher bitrate than non HDR. Netflix being a streaming service is in the business of compressing that to minimise data transfer and will be streaming a lower bitrate than a disc will be delivering.
The lighting method of LCD's is kind of irrelevant - my XE93 is edge-lit, yer out-performs 99% of FALD LCD's on the market from 2017 and a high percentage of the 2018 models (so far).
FALD is the preferred method as "usually" it gives better black performance, but there are some little "oddities" out there.
FALD is the preferred method as "usually" it gives better black performance, but there are some little "oddities" out there.
How can I call them out? I have no reference point as your images are not showing HDR
Interesting read regarding your second point
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-ne...k-hdr-streaming-right-me.html#/topics/2948064
Exactly this. Netflix bitrate for 4k HDR content is around 16mb/s, whereas a blu-ray is around 45mb/s. As an aside, the 4k remaster of Goodfellas has a bitrate of 75mb/s!
Ironically the best post in there is "lossless audio". That's what I'm getting from this discussion: the difference between HDR colour and OLED equates to the discussion between 320kbps and flac. It's not groundbreaking like many allude to, it's just tending toward perfection.