Soldato
Exactly I have no idea what hes waffling on about
As you say unless you are converting the 3kwh of energy being consumed by the immersion to some other form of energy/radiation by default its converting that to "heat energy"
Heat pumps vs Gas boiler ?
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Exactly I have no idea what hes waffling on about
As you say unless you are converting the 3kwh of energy being consumed by the immersion to some other form of energy/radiation by default its converting that to "heat energy"
Because old systems were based on a flow temp of 80c, and new systems well a lot of installers are rubbish and fail to take into account low flow and just size radiators for 80c flow.
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I think, the bigger benefit of the battery is charging up at night on the cheaper tariff therefore people can instantly see the results before hand and understand the benefits without it being explained or needed any research.
i.e you charge it at night on eco7/10 then use that during the day/evening and never pay the standard rate again.
Whereas anything else regarding heat pumps or gas boilers etc theres always different view points that people will blindly stand by their POV.
Away to watch it now, I’ve seen a video of his before where he was comparing different types of screw heads where he claimed PZ was far superior to anything else for higher torque and reduced cam out so would just take any thing he says with a pinch of salt.
We had a new boiler install very recently. I did enquire about a heat pump, but after a few engineers came round we decided to have a traditional combi boiler. We had a Worcester 4000 installed and got to say it’s a very efficient boiler.
The two many reasons we went for this over a heat pump, cost and we would have had the outside pump in our small garden. We didn’t want to be looking at that whilst enjoying a garden and it would have taking up valuable space.
If we had a drive way, where we could have had it installed I would have considered it a bit more. Or outside wall that didn’t a public path next to it.
The two many reasons we went for this over a heat pump, cost and we would have had the outside pump in our small garden. We didn’t want to be looking at that whilst enjoying a garden and it would have taking up valuable space.
If we had a drive way, where we could have had it installed I would have considered it a bit more. Or outside wall that didn’t a public path next to it.
how much more efficient would you say - with or without a separate hot tank ? we are toying with the same idea, I somewhat have the view if it isn't broke don't fix it.
plumber for combi estimation basically said it is only niche companies doing heat pump installs at the moment, at a premium, whilst other plumbers got up to speed with the technology, so perhaps difficult to get a non-partisan opinion, if the delta hp install cost offsets the current subsidy then maybe better to wait;
comparatively, how much is their yearly maintenance charge too.
perfectly true they optimised philips.
Don
No because presumable engineers won't be allowed to comission them at some point
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It's no torx though.
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Europe has been better at implementing HP's in general, our old housing stock doesnt lend itself well to AS or GS.
The GOVT has been talking a lot but with no real substance behind much of what they say. A few years ago it was hydrogen, now assuming we can crack hydrogen generation in huge amount, its an easier transition for ordinary joe. Many boiler manufacturers have tested for a 20% mix with no issues, even at 100% tests have gone really well.
The GOVT has been talking a lot but with no real substance behind much of what they say. A few years ago it was hydrogen, now assuming we can crack hydrogen generation in huge amount, its an easier transition for ordinary joe. Many boiler manufacturers have tested for a 20% mix with no issues, even at 100% tests have gone really well.
I'm now seriously considering getting a heat pump now that energy and gas prices are about to increase by up to 80 percent in October! I mean what the hell!
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But don't forget that heat pumps require electricity to run and the temperature of water they produce still requires some heating which uses more mains electricity. Then add to that their cost and maintenance. And heat pumps also work less well in the winter, just like solar panels.
I am not saying that they aren't a good idea, just that there is good and bad with them.
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This is the exact model we're having installed - will give some feedback once done (we're months away from being able to assess its true capability to be perfectly honest, as the house will not have the external wall insulation for some time!)
library.mitsubishielectric.co.uk
Ecodan PUZ-WM112VAA Monobloc Air Source Heat Pump Product Information Sheet - Document Library - Mitsubishi Electric
Soldato
Yes. I'll keep mine until I'm forced to change it
Soldato
With electric prices going so high it seems even less worth while getting a heat pump unless you've already got a load of solar or something.
best off getting a log burner installed really to heat the bulk of your house and carry on with a combi boiler for hot water and top up heat.
best off getting a log burner installed really to heat the bulk of your house and carry on with a combi boiler for hot water and top up heat.
Also the cost of having to re-pipe/re-plumb your whole house to add in a hot water storage tank if you're currently on a combi boiler. Unless there's now in-line electric heaters that will top up the temperature on demand?
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That too!