Helicopter crashes into Glasgow pub

Why dont they use this setup?? Surely should be more reliable...

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Why dont they use this setup?? Surely should be more reliable...

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Single driveshaft/ driveline powering 2 sets of rotors.....if the thing that's giving it power and therefore rotation for whatever reason stops you're in no better a position. Its all about redundancy, something you can't really get in a helicopter as there are so many potential catastrophic points of failure.

They're about as safe as they can be if maintained properly, which is not very safe IMO but I can see the merit in having them for police / rescue / military use
 
Why dont they use this setup?? Surely should be more reliable...

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It would be approximately half as reliable, as it has twice as many moving parts. I seriously doubt one rotor will work if the other fails - and even if it did then contra-rotation from torque would make it a Bad Thing, not a Good Thing. The military have rather different criteria to civilians when assessing safety.
 
I don’t normally post in GD. However I thought I would just for this thread...


Early in the thread some folk said it looked like quite a tough bar and that they had past by it on more than one occasion because they weren’t sure of the look of it. Well let me put that to bed for you and hopefully shed some light on why it is such an important little pub which may go some way as to explain some of the sentiment expressed...

There are two bars on that street The Clutha Vaults and The Scotia which look more or less the same from the outside both bars are frequented by artists, musicians, writers, poets, actors ect etc. Performers and artists such as Connoly, Raferty, Miller, Byrne and many more besides, all frequented these little pubs because there is always live music, readings, all manner of performances going on in either every night of the week. Twice a week they have jam sessions or open mic's where anyone can just get up and play. There’s always a great mixture of old and young and both bars have a phenomenally warm atmosphere. That readers is the crux of the matter, as a musician, jamming with those men and women in those bars is an education in itself, something you just cant get from any college or uni, as far as performing is concerned.

A friend of mine and vocalist with a few acts I've worked with has a residency in The Clutha and Friday night was a bit touch and go trying to contact him... fortunately he wasn’t able to take the support slot on Friday evening due to being booked elsewhere himself sadly though his saxophone player has been lost. That little bar might look rough on the outside but its full of troubadours and educators and the fact that its been destroyed before we even count the human cost is sad on its own.

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Someone else in the thread said Alex Salmond was exploiting the situation what a load of garbage! He certainly did not... he look like a man who was just about holding it together. Jim Murphy Labour MP, whom I have a particularly strong aversion to in terms of politics, just happened to be in the area at the time... rolled up his sleeves and lent a hand like any sane human would. Like the others helping Jim has seen things no one should but because of who he is... the press thrust cameras and microphones in his face to get a story. From what I seen of him, and politics doesn't even figure here, I can quite honestly say that poor man is going to need PTSD counseling of some sort or another. Personally I don’t think he'll ever be the same.

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