Help another noob overclock!

kmistry

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Hi guys, I've had my computer for a a little over a month now and i though i may as well give oc'ing a go as apparently its murder to NOT oc your E6300! So i started like it said in the guide by unlocking the FSB thingy, and incrementing by 5 each time.... I have got the CPU so far up to 1.932 Crappy I know but i can't help but think im doing something wrong. I have read that you are supposed to decrease the FSB on your Memory, but how do i do this? every time i increment the FSB by 5 the memory thing goes up (it's @ 690?) How do I go about decreasing this? I haven't changed any of the other options i.e. (PCIE multiplier or something like that? :confused:, as i didn't know if you are supposed to?)

anyway here are 2 screenies from after the oc.....so far, dunno what's wrong with CPU-Z its quite obviously reading the CPU frequency wrong as coretemp shows ?? :confused:

This is the CPU one


This is the RAM one:


Help a noob

Kiz
 
Here's a quote from another thread which I think might help you:

WJA96 said:
OK - I don't think this should be a problem.

I would definitely check out the CPU fan though as the last screenie shows it stopped. A stopped CPU fan probably isn't good.

Anyway - lets assume that your PC is just very cool and the motherboard has stopped the CPU fan all by itself (mine does).

Reboot the PC, press the DEL key to get into the BIOS.

Once in the BIOS, arrow over to 'LOAD OPTIMIZED DEFAULTS' and select that. It will ask if you are sure, confirm that you are the PC will reboot.

Use the DEL key to get back into the BIOS again.

Go to ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES and select that.

Set the following to Disable;

CPU Hyperthreading
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
CPU EIST Function
Virtualization Technology

Press ESC to come out of that menu.

Go to the Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (MIT) and select that.

Set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled

You will now be able to change the CPU Host Frequency.

As you were already at 2.4GHz Set it to 333 to start with.

Now set the PCI Express Frequency to 100

Now select System Memory Multiplier

Set that to 2.00. Your memory will now happily overclock with the CPU up to FSB of 400, which is 2.8GHz. After that the memory will also be overclocked.

Depending on your Memory, you may need to adjust the DIMM overvoltage control by between 0.1 and 0.3V to give between 1.9V and 2.1V.

Leave all the memory options on AUTO for the moment. It's not optimal, but it's not going to slow you down much either.

Press F10 to save and restart. If that's nice and stable - use SuperPi 1M places as a quick test, then go up 5MHz.

That should be stable. The most common mistake I see is people over-clocking the RAM by increasing the System Memory Multiplier when they should be decreasing it.

Give that a go up to 400MHz FSB in 5 MHz steps and let us know how you get on.

If it goes too hard, the system will auto-reset and let back in at the last settings that worked, so don't worry.

PLEASE DON'T INCREASE THE VCORE VOLTAGE AT THIS POINT - IT'S NOT NECESSARY and it's the only way to damage you processor.
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Ta mate, i just realised what I was doing wrong.....I take it you have to lower the FSB of the RAM in order to compensate for when you overclock your CPU? I say this because as you increase the FSB on your CPU you are also incrementing the FSB on the RAM (right? :confused: ) I seem to know what needs to be done, if only I wasn't out on the lash tonight I would finish it off :D

How well do you think it will do on stock cooler? at least 2.2 hopefully? I will be getting a freezer7 pro or whatever is good after xmas :D

Kiz
 
kmistry said:
Ta mate, i just realised what I was doing wrong.....I take it you have to lower the FSB of the RAM in order to compensate for when you overclock your CPU? I say this because as you increase the FSB on your CPU you are also incrementing the FSB on the RAM (right? :confused: ) I seem to know what needs to be done, if only I wasn't out on the lash tonight I would finish it off :D

How well do you think it will do on stock cooler? at least 2.2 hopefully? I will be getting a freezer7 pro or whatever is good after xmas :D

Kiz
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Yeah you need to put a divider on the RAM to start off with.

And the stock cooler will be fine until 2.8+ I imagine (don't quote me on this :p ). When you start needing to raise the Vcore is when you'll need to get a better cooler.
 
H2F Scott said:
And the stock cooler will be fine until 2.8+ I imagine (don't quote me on this :p )
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Why not - it's about right. The AC Freezer 7 Pro will just keep it all a bit cooler longer, that all.
 
Lol I know its a crap clock :D I was just "testing the water" as it were :p, I will try and get it upto 2.5 then post back \o/

Kiz
 
torrentthief said:
that is a crap overclock, put it on 400*8 then lower your volts until you find its breaking point.
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Is that supposed to be helping? ;)
 
Another noob testing the water here

Got it to 2.4 (345x7) using the guide above, but havent got time to push it further.
Whats this RAM divider you speak of? RAM is currently at 690
 
dheyworth1981 said:
Another noob testing the water here

Got it to 2.4 (345x7) using the guide above, but havent got time to push it further.
Whats this RAM divider you speak of? RAM is currently at 690
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No need to worry then, as your ram (6400) is rated for 800MHz :) Just make sure you are giving it the 2.1 volts it is supposed to have.
 
Ok so I clocked the CPU to 2.3 GHz as this meant 333x7, So that My RAM would then run at 333 FSB (i.e. 666/7) The RAM is currently at 1:1 at 5-5-5-15, and the CPU was orthos stable (but I will test for better stability later....My only qualm is my CPU temp has shot up from 46°C idle to 55°C idle. i haven't changed any of the voltages or anything, so I was just wondering if I did anything wrong, I do understand that obviously the chip will get hotter as its pushed harder, but I didn't think it would go up this much! I know my case is pants for cooling, So has anyone got any suggestions?

Kiz

EDIT: Is it safe to be this high? as I noticed people have got some really low temps! ? I just don't want to damage the CPU tbh (it may just be oc'ing noob talk but better to be safe than sorry)
 
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kmistry regardless AMD or Intel o/c some ideas are common in both platforms.
If you want download Guidemania for details.
Of course you should avoid high Vcores for your CPU, Intels are more sensitive than AMDs.
In every case don't forget to download the Throttle Watch it is freeware.
 
Thanks for that mate, problem is is there anything I can do in the mean time to reduce temps? I just didn't expect them to go that high seeing as It's not really been oc'ed as much as others (although i Know this is CPU dependant) and seeing as I haven't touched any of the voltages AT ALL.

Kiz
 
kmistry said:
Thanks for that mate, problem is is there anything I can do in the mean time to reduce temps? I just didn't expect them to go that high seeing as It's not really been oc'ed as much as others (although i Know this is CPU dependant) and seeing as I haven't touched any of the voltages AT ALL.

Kiz
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How long since you built the PC? If I recall correctly you are using the stock CPU cooler? That cooler is actually quite a good one and an idle temp of 46C is too high. I would suggest turning off the automated fan control in the BIOS as on mine that stopped the fan for worryingly long periods.

If that doesn't help, then check the cooler is properly seated. I had one of those case and they are not disastrous for cooling. Nice and quiet though.
 
WJA96 said:
How long since you built the PC? If I recall correctly you are using the stock CPU cooler? That cooler is actually quite a good one and an idle temp of 46C is too high. I would suggest turning off the automated fan control in the BIOS as on mine that stopped the fan for worryingly long periods.

If that doesn't help, then check the cooler is properly seated. I had one of those case and they are not disastrous for cooling. Nice and quiet though.
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Thanks dude, I have already reseated it, as I was getting 55°C idle before I reseated! That is correct I am using the stock CPU cooler, so I don't know what's going on, will take a look in the BIOS for this 'automated fan control' setting and disable that!

Thanks

Kiz

EDIT: Ok so I turned off the automated fan control thing, but my idle temp is still 51C as reported by coretemp - I know this is way to high as these chips are supposed to run cooler right? Looks like I might have ti invest in a freezer 7 pro then - is the thermal compound that comes with it good enough or should I get some AS?
 
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At 2.4 mine idles at 50 degrees....the odd thing is after running superpi for 30 mins and now i got orthos running, the temp on both cores is still about 50-53 degrees

Arctic 7 Cooler

I dont think i have turned off the auto fan control, so ill do that when I get home (i like vnc :) )
 
Yes I used Arctic Silver...I Checked the temperature in BIOS and it was 43°C idle yet coretemp was reporting it as 51.....Seems like coretemp is wrong - as surely the BIOS can't be wrong can it?

Kiz
 
Just another thing, I have clocked to 2.3 GHz (333x7) at the moment, which means my RAM is running at 667MHz, The RAM Im using is the Geil Value PC5300 (2x1gb stuff). Now if I continue to increase the FSB to oc the processor does this mean that the RAM will run ok over speeds of 667?

Kiz
 
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