Poll: Help in trying to explain something

Where is Biarritz?

  • The South of France

  • Southern France

  • Stop being so bloody pedantic, the first two options are the same thing.


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Its southern France.

The South of France is a specified region in the south of France.

Thats the South west. technically.

lol...
 
Did she put her phone down to do this? You know, the phone that contains the entire internet at her fingertips, including Google and their Maps service?

I’d already showed her on an iPad where Biarritz is situated, on the Atlantic Coast some 8 km from Bayonne, what she wouldn’t accept was that there is a difference between that area on the Atlantic S.W. Coast of France, and the coastal area on the Med, known throughout Europe as the “The South of France”, which features towns like Saint-Tropez, Cannes, Antibes and Nice.



It depends on whether "South of France" is a recognised area name rather than simply a description. Maybe Biarritz is in the south of France but not in the South of France. Like, for example, how almost all of the city of London is not in the City of London. If so, then it has both meanings depending on context so both are correct.

Exactly, and to me, “The South of France” is a definite recognised area of Mediterranean coastal resorts.

I think you're right.

If someone was saying they are going to south of france on holiday, 99% of people in this thread would think southern med coast, not western atlantic coast.

Again, this is how I see it, and probably lots of people do.

I think Cherokee squaw.

For a Frenchman with an intimate knowledge of London's streets having taken The Knowledge, I find I have to disagree with your geography of your home nation, sorry Jean. I would say south of France too...

But that aside, women and maps are dangerous bedfellows.

I don’t think that you’re right Chris, but I have too much respect for you to argue about it.

If someone said they were going to the South of France, I wouldn't expect to see them on the Atlantic coast, even though that place is South in France, it's not in the South of France.

If I give you my wife’s email address would you gently point that out to her?

Geographically Biarritz is located in Southern France, but like JF I wouldn't associate it with the region known as the South of France.

At last, someone who can see what I’ve been trying to say.

Why do you call her Red?

Because she has dark red hair, my English daughter-in-law has strawberry-blonde hair, and I often call her “Red” too.
My son, her husband, calls her Tonge (Tonj), he said it was what Scots guys in his regiment called anyone with red hair.
 
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Any advice on how I can explain to her that Biarritz is NOT in what most people know as the South of France?
I think the problem you have is, you're assuming that what you associate as the South of France is the same as what most people would associate as the South of France. You will actually find that if you showed everyone in the UK a map of France with Biarritz highlighted and asked them all if it's in the South of France then the answer would be an overwhelming yes.
 
North, Southern, South of, it matters not. They deserve the same treatment:

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Southern France, also known as the South of France or colloquially in French as le Midi,[1][2] is a defined geographical area consisting of the regions of France that border the Atlantic Ocean south of the Marais Poitevin,[3] Spain, the Mediterranean Sea and Italy. It includes: southern Nouvelle-Aquitaine in the west, Occitanie in the centre, the southern parts of Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes in the northeast, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur in the southeast, as well as the island of Corsica in the southeast.

I think Wikipedia agrees with your wife
 
I think Wikipedia agrees with your wife

While I sincerely appreciate your weighing in on my wife’s side, and Wikipedia for agreeing with her too, I know exactly what part of France I’m referring to when I say, “I’m going to the South of France”, and it’s a long way from Biarritz, on the Atlantic Coast.
I’ll also agree that Biarritz is geographically in the South-West of France, but it’s NOT on the Mediterranean coast of France in an area known universally as “The South of France.”
 
When in Corsica some years ago I was discussing geography with a native. I referred to our location as the south of France. He didn’t like that.
 
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