Help me with a new build, no budget

[marktruman]

so my ltd company will be paying for my new build, so technically I have no budget

I will use it for gaming, movies blah blah the usual stuff, so here goes. I already have the r5 and its very silent. I don't overclock or watercool by the way


GPU - GTX 1080Ti
Case - FRACTAL R5
CPU - i7 7700K
Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ( Anything better? )
Ram - 16gb DDR4 3000mhz ( recommendations? )
mobo - recommendations?
ssd - normal ssd or the new m.2?
PSU - any recommendations?

 

[marktruman]

How about Ryzen instead of the i7?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1800X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £499.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming 5 AMD X370 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £204.95
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £119.99
• 1 x Samsung 960 EVO Polaris 250GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £149.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1080TI 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £799.99
• 1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply= £99.95
• 1 x be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced CPU Cooler = £57.98
  • AM4 Bracket:Be quiet AM4 Cooler Bracket

Total: £1,944.54
(includes shipping: £11.70)
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I had my eye on the ryzen but I saw that it was lacking in certain games and the i7 7700k outperformed it?

 

[marktruman]

Its getting better as game devs make game patches etc, also its hardly slow even in its current state.

Its like 100 quid more expensive too? Not sure tbh, I game at 1440p, and I will be getting a 100hz monitor, I seen some benchmarks where ryzen benchmarks were like 20fps slower

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-review

 

[marktruman]

anyone know difference between asus rog 34" and acer predator 34"? theres about 200 difference

 

[marktruman]

Can you link to the exact models (just incase there is small differences in model numbers)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/acer...e-zeroframe-curved-led-monitor-mo-109-ac.html

and

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...en-curved-led-monitor-black-re-mo-089-as.html

 

[marktruman]

Both IPS, both Gsync, both capable of 100Hz, 3 vs 2year warranty.

Apart from the style and that the Acer is on offer (explains the £300 difference) I cant see any obvious difference.

thanks mate, you have been a great help

regarding ram, 16gb the sweet spot or should I go 32gb? I'm running 8gb atm of ddr3, so I presume any ddr4 will feel a lot better

 

[marktruman]

For gaming currently 16gb should be plenty.

roger that, and 3000hz is enough? I see 3200hz and 3400hz

 

[marktruman]

can someone give me some ideas for i7 7700k motherboard and compatible RAM?

Also, I need to be able to add a bluray drive to it ( sata )

 

[marktruman]

You can't really go wrong with a Gigabyte board and Corsair Ram.

Here are a few different boards depending on how much you want to spend. The Corsair ram will fit under any cpu cooler as they are classed as low profile. There are cheaper kits such as the Team Group Night Hawk but they are pretty tall.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Ultra Gaming Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £149.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 7 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £229.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming K5 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £172.99
• 1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270XP-SLI Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £136.99
• 1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270-Gaming K3 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £131.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red (CMK16GX4M2B3000= £139.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B30= £139.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (CMK16GX4M2B30= £128.99

Total: £1,245.02
(includes shipping: £14.10)



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so I can pretty much pick any mobo? any reason for price discrepancy?

I'm going to be using 1080ti, 7700k, samsung m.2 ssd and will need to work with my bluray drive ( im sure thats a given but cant hurt to check ) I won't be overclocking, oh and a cooler master evo cooler

 

[marktruman]

The gaming K5 and the 7 are the best ones.

4yr warranty, better sound solutions, better rgb options etc.

sounds good although I'm having a windowless case

 

[marktruman]

Not sure I will plump for the NVME ssd after all due to some people saying it needs bios updates etc sounds like a hassle

 

[marktruman]

Theres no problem or hassle with a NVME drive unless I suppose you are using an ancient OS.

I made a post in the storage drives thread and someone said some motherboards require a bios update before it can read it

This is a brand new build, so NVME will be main drive, and optical drive will install onto the NVME directly.. I want a fresh install, its half of the fun

 

[marktruman]

I currently use a cooler master hyper 212 cooler for my pc, was easy to install

Is there anything better out nowadays? No doubt the 7700k runs hotter

 

[marktruman]

apparently the Noctua NH-D14 runs cooler than cooler master, it seems a lot bigger going by pictures though, any pitfalls with this?

 

[marktruman]

It is so big you need to have ram without stupidly tall heatsinks.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...hannel-kit-red-cmk16gx4m2b3000-my-451-cs.html

this should be okay

I see the noctua is 10 degrees cooler, which is a big difference

 

[marktruman]

As you were considering the relatively modest but classic 212 cooler have you considered the NH-U14S Ultra-Quiet Slim CPU instead of the monolith that is the D14.

There's only a few degrees difference in performance and it's half the size - and unless you're going for an extreme clock it will still keep your CPU frosty and quiet.

I mention it as I have a similar monolith strapped to my present system - Thermalright Silverstone. Yes it keeps things cool but it's a PITA to work around and clean (although the Noctua is easier to fit and fans are easier to move). But, I personally feel, the performance does not warrant the hassle or the weight of massive heatsink - unless you're going to be clocking your system to absolute nth degree.

If you're going for a straight forward clock then the NH-U14S Ultra-Quiet Slim CPU will do the job - superior to the classic 212 but not such a hog when it comes to space and you can use whatever blingy memory that you want (although I personally like the plain stuff).

But, don't get me wrong, the D14 is in a class of its own - along with the BeQuiet - for performance but the fact you were considering the 212 you may want to take a look at the NH-U14S as it's a great compromise between size and performance.

sounds perfect, I won't overclock so the size compromise is great for me

Onto the fractal r5, the case fans seem okay, should I keep them or change them?

 

[marktruman]

so far I have

7700K
16GB RAM ( not specific picked yet )
GTX 1080Ti
Samsung 500gb M.2 EVO
FRACTAL R5
NOCTUA NH-U14S


anyone recommend me a good, quiet and modular PSU?

 

[marktruman]

BeQuiet or Super Flower, as you're looking for a quiet setup, within the budget you can afford - 750w ideally unless you plan sli (which i personally think is a waste).

But any quality brand Corsair/seasonic/evga will do the job - I've personally always bought Corsair but will be moving to BeQuiet for my next build due to forum banter.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-q...nze-fully-modular-power-supply-ca-068-bq.html

this will do then?

 

[marktruman]

Ok, here is the build ready to go, final thoughts? pc part picker says "

• The motherboard M.2 slot #0 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6Gb/s port is disabled."

i7 7700K
GTX 1080Ti
Gigabyte Intel GA-Z270X-
Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Fractal Design Define R5
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz

 

[marktruman]

the build will happen today, what programs should I run as soon as I installed? CPU temp?