Help my PC is just constantly freezing...no idea why.

Try taking the host frequency down to 100MHz and do some testing.

Even though it's at stock, it could still be causing trouble.
 
Bonjour said:
Try taking the host frequency down to 100MHz and do some testing.

Even though it's at stock, it could still be causing trouble.
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ok will try that and i will leave the cpu voltage as it is. would that be a big performance downgrade? i will try it anyway and see if its stable.
 
Bonjour said:
Yeah, it'll be a major performance downgrade, but will help you diagnose precisely what the fault is.
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Its going ok at the moment! that might of fixed it, i will leave it running though just to make sure but does that mean then its a damaged cpu after all that? i dont know why the temps werent that high. So how do i go about getting it back to stock frequency?
 
It could be either the CPU or the motherboard that's been damaged.

It's possible that there was some electrostatic discharge when you installed the network card, particularly if the problems arose since then.

You can read a bit about ESD here.
 
1.
The use of an anti-static wrist strap is the ideal way to prevent damage, these can be purchased from your high street computer shop. They simply plug into a wall socket (switched off) or attach to an unpainted metal part of the computer casework.
2.
Do not attempt to carry out any PC internal upgrades with the power cable plugged in. If you do not have access to an anti-static wrist strap, then some precautions maybe taken to reduce the risk of ESD damage.
1. Remove monitor, unplug monitor mains cable and then the signal cable from the PC.
2. Disconnect any other mains powered peripheral that is connected to the PC (e.g. Printer parallel cable, Scanner USB cable, etc).
3. Remove mains lead from PC or unplug PC.
4. Remove lid of PC.
5. Locate DIMM socket.
6. Touch PC chassis with one hand and the new DIMM (inside packaging) with the other.
7. Remove DIMM and hold by edges.
8. Touch PC chassis with one hand briefly.
9. You may now use both hands to fully insert the DIMM.

These precautions will only reduce the risk of ESD damage, but will not eliminate the risk completely. RM always recommend the use of an anti-static wrist strap, and cannot be held responsible for components that have been fitted without the use of a wrist strap.

3. Keep any components that are not fitted to the computer, in the special ESD bags that the component is supplied in. Only remove the component from the ESD bag when you are ready to fit it, and place the replaced component into the ESD bag as soon as its removed from the computer.
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bloody hell i dont do any of that except touch the pc chassis.

i suppose i could try changing the frequence to 150 now? how do i tell for certain if it is the cpu or the motherboard? it should be ok though if left on 100?
 
Bonjour said:
Easiest way would be to get hold of another processor you know's working and do some testing with that.
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thats not really easy though, i have to get hold of one first and this tuniq tower is a lot of effort to fit as well. plus this pc is sold anyway..i could RMA the cpu and hope its that but it will probably take ages to turn up..
 
Bonjour said:
Nice. :)

You should be able to find the sweet spot.
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i just put my dvd drive and floppy drive back in (i removed them before to see if they were the problem)..turned the pc on and it froze on startup..:o

so ive put it back to 100 just to see.

edit well it seems ok on 100. would adding those two drives mean i would have to lower the cpu then to get it stable?
 
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one last thing, cpu vcore is 1.325 (normal), should i leave it on that? if i up it to say 1.5 that would make it more stable wouldnt it? i know the temps might go up a bit but they aint gonna be high anyway as its underclocked..
 
Whoah. Don't take it all the way up to 1.5 just like that, that's the sort of thing that degrades a CPU. Try taking it up in 0.025 increments if possible, but not much further than 1.4.

If you were running it at 1.5 before, then that may have caused the CPU degredation that created the issue.

Hope you manage to get it stable at a decent speed.
 
Bonjour said:
Whoah. Don't take it all the way up to 1.5 just like that, that's the sort of thing that degrades a CPU. Try taking it up in 0.025 increments if possible, but not much further than 1.4.

If you were running it at 1.5 before, then that may have caused the CPU degredation that created the issue.

Hope you manage to get it stable at a decent speed.
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nah i didnt just jump to that before. vcore is still normal, frequency is now 140 and its been stable for 2 days and working perfectly. Im gonna try it on 165 and see what happens..
 
Bonjour said:
Whoah. Don't take it all the way up to 1.5 just like that, that's the sort of thing that degrades a CPU. Try taking it up in 0.025 increments if possible, but not much further than 1.4.

If you were running it at 1.5 before, then that may have caused the CPU degredation that created the issue.

Hope you manage to get it stable at a decent speed.
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well its still screwed. I got a page fault in non pageable area or something blue screen. then it froze in bios. its basically still freezing in windows no matter what i put the cpu frequency on. im gonna have to get the cpu replaced i think before i sell it..:(
 
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