Help please guys with my new loop temps..

OK so tested realbench 100% cpu load for 25mins with the case door open and front fan filter removed.

Pump @ 60% and fans @ 100% (1000rpm)

There was a 7-10c difference to my cpu temps.

Max temp for cpu was 77c and gpu 33c.

So that would suggest the case hasn't got the best air flow and surly to help that I need a 3rd fan in the front and better static pressure fans all round?

The intake has to draw air in through smallish vents around the side of the front when the door is closed then through a filter and lastly through the rad while also creating some air flow in the case itself.

What do you think?

Will test a game in a bit also.
 
Yeah as I suspected, air flow appears to be the culprit, but many cases suffer from this. At the end of the day, I wouldn't get too concerned. You can try different fans, but I don't know that this is going to make much of a difference, certainly not more than a few degrees.

Ultimately, Realbench isn't something you're running every day, and your game temps are fine. Short of moving to a new case, or leaving all the filters/panels off permanently (which is hardly a good idea), you're not really going to change things very much. I know how easy it is to get caught up with things like this, but (and stating the obvious here) just enjoy your system! :)
 
hmmm. my 4790k runns at 55c max gaming overclocked at 4.7GHz with 2x 280 rads

I'm delidded though. Maybe buy a delid die mate? They are expencive, but you spent this much on a custom loop so....
 
new boy said:
hmmm. my 4790k runns at 55c max gaming overclocked at 4.7GHz with 2x 280 rads

I'm delidded though. Maybe buy a delid die mate? They are expencive, but you spent this much on a custom loop so....
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What case mate? No chance buying a delid would just do it myself or just get a new mb and cpu upgrade :)
 
Legend said:
Yeah as I suspected, air flow appears to be the culprit, but many cases suffer from this. At the end of the day, I wouldn't get too concerned. You can try different fans, but I don't know that this is going to make much of a difference, certainly not more than a few degrees.

Ultimately, Realbench isn't something you're running every day, and your game temps are fine. Short of moving to a new case, or leaving all the filters/panels off permanently (which is hardly a good idea), you're not really going to change things very much. I know how easy it is to get caught up with things like this, but (and stating the obvious here) just enjoy your system! :)
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So tempting to get sp fans though. What about the extra in the front? I can't help myself :)
 
Bone9 said:
So Gta 5 for 1hr 15mins with the door open and filter removed.

Cpu 55-60max
Gpu 41-44max
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I would be happy with that.

Does closing the door increase temps much?

I would definitely fit a water temp sensor.
Cpu temp just doesn't give you enough information.
Ideally you would know air intake and case temp as well :)

I'm using an aqua aero to monitor temps and control fans.
Allows lots of clever stuff if your motherboard can't do much.
Largely unnecessary and expensive, but it's fun to play with.

Does pump speed make any difference?
I set mine so I can't hear it and leave it alone.

I don't see any change in temperature by increasing pump speed.
 
Holst1981 said:
I would be happy with that.

Does closing the door increase temps much?

I would definitely fit a water temp sensor.
Cpu temp just doesn't give you enough information.
Ideally you would know air intake and case temp as well :)

I'm using an aqua aero to monitor temps and control fans.
Allows lots of clever stuff if your motherboard can't do much.
Largely unnecessary and expensive, but it's fun to play with.

Does pump speed make any difference?
I set mine so I can't hear it and leave it alone.

I don't see any change in temperature by increasing pump speed.
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Well with the filter and door on and closed the temps for Gta 5 rise to cpu 66 and gpu 48 so about a 6c rise.

I did look at one of those but have nowhere to mount it etc.

I just kept the pump speed low at idle so I can't hear it. It rises slightly when gaming but so do the fans so can't hear it then either.
 
Popped a Akasa apache black 120mm fan that I had laying around in the front just for a test and these are the results.

GTA5 for 1hr, fans 100%

CPU: 56-64c
GPU: 47-51c

Thats with the filters installed and door closed.

Without the fan with door closed and filtered I got...

CPU: 65-72c
GPU: 51c
 
Whoops just ordered these...

6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC 2000RPM PWM 140mm High Performance Fan
Aqua Computer Aquaero 6 XT - Blue
Aqua Computer Passive Cooler for Aquaero 6
EK Water Blocks EK-Cable Y-Splitter 3-Fan PWM (10cm)
EK Water Blocks EK-Cable PWM Extension Cables Sleeved (30cm)

That should do it :)
 
Bone9 said:
Whoops just ordered these...

6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC 2000RPM PWM 140mm High Performance Fan
Aqua Computer Aquaero 6 XT - Blue
Aqua Computer Passive Cooler for Aquaero 6
EK Water Blocks EK-Cable Y-Splitter 3-Fan PWM (10cm)
EK Water Blocks EK-Cable PWM Extension Cables Sleeved (30cm)

That should do it :)
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If by 'do it', you mean take a huge wad of cash out your bank account for what is likely to be a rather small improvement, then yes, you nailed it! ;)

Be interesting to see what the difference actually is.
 
Legend said:
If by 'do it', you mean take a huge wad of cash out your bank account for what is likely to be a rather small improvement, then yes, you nailed it! ;)

Be interesting to see what the difference actually is.
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It's fine mate, I tested with one fan and it done the job so these will do even better. Also looking forward to setting up and monitoring all the temps etc with the controller.

I tried not to crack but knowing that I had air flow fans instead of static pressure I couldn't let it go :)
 
Found the problem guy's!!!!! :)

This weekend I emptied the coolant and used Mayhem's blitz cleaning kit. Flushed the system, fitted a water temp sensor in the res, removed the cpu block (more on this is a sec), fitted a 140mm high speed be quiet silent wings 3 fan as an air intake in the front and finally filled with fresh Mayhem's Pre mixed X1 clear uv blue coolant.

The old (1 month) coolant had some small particles and what looked like oil in it and the ph was off.

The cpu paste looked good...





I decided to strip and clean the cpu block while it was off and found out that the micro channels were facing the wrong way! When I first installed this I just reassembled the same way it was in the box but with he correct plates etc. I assumed the block was built correctly in the first place. While looking at it I just though that didn't look right so a quick look up online confirmed that I had the base plate on the wrong way. The channels were going up and down rather than left and right.



Rebuilt the system and everything is so much better. Much better flow, loads easier to bleed and the temps are now brilliant.

This is with the door open, not tested with it closed but am still working on the airflow door.

Realbench 100% load

CPU max 63.2c with no rad fans spinning. 57-58c max with rad fans on.
GPU max 48c with no rad fans spinning. 42c max with rad fans on.

So happy that same test hit 84c with max fans in a lot less time and continued rising till I shut down the test. 26c difference!!!!
 
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