• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Help requested, choosing the correct GPU?

pensher

pensher

pensher

Associate
Joined
7 Jul 2010
Posts
16
So im struggling to run fallout 4 in low graphics settings without stuttering in even the most mundane areas.

this is my current setup:

Gigabyte x58a-ud3r motherboard
Intel i7 930 2.8ghz overclocked to 4.0ghz
2 x 8gb hyperx savage 1600hmz
2 x 1gb ATI radeon HD 5770 crossfire
samsung LS19 inch monitor 60hz 32bit 1360x768

i meet all the minimum specs for the game with the exception of the graphics setup, so im thinking of upgrading that next, heres what i had in mind.

*RADEON R9 390X GAMING EDITION 8192MB GDDR5
*G-Master GB2888UHSU-B1 28" 3840x2160 TN FREESYNC 4K 60Hz 1ms Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor

whats your opinions? im not an expert by any means and would really appreciate some advice.
 
oooops yeah i forgot psu, its a corsair 650w already.

i dont really have a budget, i picked that card, it seems to be future proof for at least a few years.

all in, on OC website it comes in at £700
 
A 390x will not run FO4 at ultra @4k without sacrifice.

I am running 4k with a Fury X and it runs very well until you hit the streets. Then it tanks to the low 30s so there's no way a 390x will match that.

I would go for the Fury non X or Fury X.

With the non X there's a chance you can fully unlock it too.

However. I still think (even as an owner) that I went 4k far too early. You won't get 60 FPS in games with high settings and at times you will need to reduce them to medium and at that point you may as well be running 1080p. I mean it still looks better, but having tasted the highest details it's a bummer to have to keep reducing them.

When Pascal full fat and AMD's next range of full fat cards come along that can double the performance of the 980ti/Fury X will be when 4k really starts to become properly viable.

Right now dude? honestly, coming from a 4k user I would avoid it. It tanks performance like you really wouldn't believe and you constantly have to mess with settings to get min 30 FPS.

Even for me there are times when I get to like 17 FPS, but thankfully with Fallout 4 you get VATS so you can just enter that and everything slows down any way.

Thankfully FO4 is not a game that wants to be ran at any faster than 60 FPS any way.
 
I would agree with Greg, the best gaming experience is on a single card (due to dodgy game engines, no sli/crossfire support, microstutter, etc) a single card won't run all modern games at 60 fps at 4k without dropping settings. 1440p is the sweet spot for gaming (IMHO ;) :D).
 
Thanks for your advice on this, just waiting on confirmation that the gpu is compatible, I think it is the mobo has 2 X 16x speed pci slots, don't think there should be any other issues, also changed my mind of minitors thanks to your advice now looking at ACER PREDATOR XF270HU 27" 2560X1440 IPS FREESYNC 144HZ GAMING WIDESCREEN LED MONITOR - BLACK/RED.

Still going for 390x though as the others say they require pci 3.0 and not sure my mobo is compatible.
 
pensher said:
Thanks for your advice on this, just waiting on confirmation that the gpu is compatible, I think it is the mobo has 2 X 16x speed pci slots, don't think there should be any other issues, also changed my mind of minitors thanks to your advice now looking at ACER PREDATOR XF270HU 27" 2560X1440 IPS FREESYNC 144HZ GAMING WIDESCREEN LED MONITOR - BLACK/RED.

Still going for 390x though as the others say they require pci 3.0 and not sure my mobo is compatible.
Click to expand...

It will work fine in pci 2.0
 
Gregster said:
Nice monitor and a good card choice but you will still have to turn down settings to get FO4 to run well.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page4.html

Having personally owned a 4K monitor and many different monitors, I would recommend looking to a single GPU and a 1440P 144Hz monitor.

Any thoughts on that?
Click to expand...

+1 on this! 1440p is sweet spot for that card. Even with top end cards 980Ti or Fury x you will struggle with 4k on max settings with most newer games.
 
Just had some feedback from ocuk recommending me against this GPU due to CPU bottlenecking, I would have thought 4GHz would be plenty to prevent this? What's your thoughts?

Reply from OCUK

Thankyou for your webnote, the GPU and monitor would be compatible with your system, however you will run into two main problems;

- This GPU used alongside this older processor will bottleneck and you won't get the full performance output of the GPU, (approximate 10-15% loss of performance).

- This Monitor is 2560x1440 and 144Hz, 2560x1440 resolution is much harder to run than standard 1080p, the R9 390X would run it well if you didn't have the 144Hz on the monitor aswell. A 144Hz panel means you will need to achieve a smooth 144 frames per second (fps) for the screen to perform. 144Hz on 2560x1440 is hard to achieve if you are playing AAA title games such as Witcher 3 on high/max settings. If you are playing games such as CS:GO/ Call of Duty or MOBA's such as League of Legends then it won't ever be a problem as these are easy to run.

Regards,

Alexander R


What's your thoughts should I change my setup completely?
 
I'm running Fallout 4 @ ultra (shadows and Godrays low) 1440p DSR on a AMD 1055T clocked to 3.5ghz so I say BS.

A 390 will walk 1440p in your rig IMO.
 
pensher said:
Just had some feedback from ocuk recommending me against this GPU due to CPU bottlenecking, I would have thought 4GHz would be plenty to prevent this? What's your thoughts?

Reply from OCUK

Thankyou for your webnote, the GPU and monitor would be compatible with your system, however you will run into two main problems;

- This GPU used alongside this older processor will bottleneck and you won't get the full performance output of the GPU, (approximate 10-15% loss of performance).

- This Monitor is 2560x1440 and 144Hz, 2560x1440 resolution is much harder to run than standard 1080p, the R9 390X would run it well if you didn't have the 144Hz on the monitor aswell. A 144Hz panel means you will need to achieve a smooth 144 frames per second (fps) for the screen to perform. 144Hz on 2560x1440 is hard to achieve if you are playing AAA title games such as Witcher 3 on high/max settings. If you are playing games such as CS:GO/ Call of Duty or MOBA's such as League of Legends then it won't ever be a problem as these are easy to run.

Regards,

Alexander R


What's your thoughts should I change my setup completely?
Click to expand...

Did you tell them it's overclocked from stock? 1440p moves more towards gpu bound compared to 1080p.
 
Yeah I gave them the full spec, I did wanna call BS but thought maybes I was missing something, I'm gonna go for it anyway and see for myself.
 
pensher said:
Just had some feedback from ocuk recommending me against this GPU due to CPU bottlenecking, I would have thought 4GHz would be plenty to prevent this? What's your thoughts?

Reply from OCUK

Thankyou for your webnote, the GPU and monitor would be compatible with your system, however you will run into two main problems;

- This GPU used alongside this older processor will bottleneck and you won't get the full performance output of the GPU, (approximate 10-15% loss of performance).

- This Monitor is 2560x1440 and 144Hz, 2560x1440 resolution is much harder to run than standard 1080p, the R9 390X would run it well if you didn't have the 144Hz on the monitor aswell. A 144Hz panel means you will need to achieve a smooth 144 frames per second (fps) for the screen to perform. 144Hz on 2560x1440 is hard to achieve if you are playing AAA title games such as Witcher 3 on high/max settings. If you are playing games such as CS:GO/ Call of Duty or MOBA's such as League of Legends then it won't ever be a problem as these are easy to run.

Regards,

Alexander R


What's your thoughts should I change my setup completely?
Click to expand...

Well when the resolution is higher, it puts less strain on the CPU for some reason and no idea why but I have seen it first hand. 1080P will require more CPU than 1440P for instance.
 
I'm sure the more I read the response the little the fella knows about his own products, the monitor is freesync and sets the frequency to the GPU and not fixed. I can't see it being an issue, I'll be ordering it tomorrow so will report back on findings/benchmarks.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom