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if it works ok you could spend it elseware, a better monitor, keyboard, mouse, joystick, steering wheels, speakers/subwoofer etc.
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if it works ok you could spend it elseware, a better monitor, keyboard, mouse, joystick, steering wheels, speakers/subwoofer etc.
he went AMD 7950X cpu. has zero issues. I've just asked how much ram he's actually using as 64 is probably overkill, but seeing as he went high end with everything (the msi meg mobo is £700+), what's an extra £100...but his reply below
The AMD cpu is fine...for whatever reason foresight were not recommending AMD for GFX.
FSX Play is much more taxing than GSPro, and FSX Play are going thru the process of upgrading the graphics on all courses...They have done it for a couple of the premium courses throughout the past few months, so I am glad i went slightly overkill. I play on 4k @ 60fps and of course the system runs all golf software without issue. All is good, but maybe it would have been just as good if I went for cheaper components!
Components used below:
- AMD Ryzen 9 7950x
- MSI RTX 4090
- G.Skill Trident Z5 2x32GB DDR5 PC5-48000c30 6000Mhz
- MSI MEG x670E
I'd still say the 9800x3d would be a better cpu. I think all the cores of the 7950x wont be fully utilised for the simulator..also, as you've double confirmed, FSX running on unity, that loves the x3d v cache, so would be my go to, and I'd take the 9800x3d over the 7800x3d as you've got the 5090..as you're spending £2k on the gpu, might as well eek out as much performance as possible
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why should golf sim be graphically demanding? It literally is the least demanding simulator. Is it really poorly coded?
Thanks for that
I had the software guy from Foresight on the phone about 30 mins ago. He said the only thing they can guarantee to work are the PC's they supply. There are lots of variables when speccing a PC, and they sell a confirmed working spec - which is Nvidia / Intel.
They only go on info that's passed down to them from Foresight US, but there have been issues in the past with delays and issues with the shot tracer on AMD CPU's. He was quite frank when he said 'the past' could easily be several years ago and no one has ever retested it with an AMD processor so they just stick with the 'not recommended' line. He said graphics are optimised for Nvidia, and he would definitely avoid an AMD GFX card. An AMD processor should work fine, but he couldn't guarantee it.
I'm trying to achieve 4k @ 60fps at full detail too - so good to know that his system copes with it. I would definitely pay the extra for the 9800X3D, but a £250-300 motherboard would be fine!
The sensible thing to do is hang fire at the moment and see how my old kit copes with the 5090 before ordering anything else.
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you can run a golf simulator on much lower settings, with min recommended being a 3060/4060 atm..but of course that goes up once you start projecting from 1080p to 4k. also you then add more detail etc and can add ray tracing/path tracing..software recommendation back in 2020 recommends 3090 for top settings..pretty sure a 5080 is more than enough for everythig, esp with frame gen which would work well on golf, but op aready set sights on 5090. not going to argue with that. at mo better getting that then spending on a 5080 aib at ridiculous prices...see someone selling a 5080 asus prime at £1483 i think before he returns it...that's meant to be a msrp card..even the link he put up from asus lists it as £979...shop he bought it from scalps with the best of them obvs...at that price I'd rather stump up the extra and get a 5090fe myself
generally, when you have someone willing to convert a garage or room for a full golf setup with projectors, screen, nets, ball tracker etc, they're already a few £kkk's in. might as well go the whole way and have a decent image to shoot at
@p3eps I did go back as was curious for a 16 core cpu and 64gb ram...he also using it for modelling/photogrammetry...ontherwise he would have gone for x3d cpu/32gb ram. going 4k does put less stress on the cpu so be interesting how you get on with your current setup
When I spoke to the guy at Foresight, he was shocked that I was still getting a decent result with a 1070ti - as it's way below their recommended settings. I think they recommend at least a 3060 for basic, and a 4080 for high spec. I have it on relatively low settings, and it only really struggles on some of the newer courses which have things like moving water. When the ball flies, I then get a bit of a stutter. Still perfectly playable though.
The 5080 was my original choice as I figured it would be better than the 4080 Super, and it was originally announced as being cheaper. The reviews did't do the 5080 any favours, and a lot of them are retailing at over £1400. Jumping to a 5090 seemed sensible given the 4090 isn't much cheaper, the 5090 has double the VRAM. The 5090 should have 2 years as top dog, then hopefully still have a good few years as a contender after that.
My golf sim is my garage - and is primarily still a garage. Full of bikes, tools, racking, the boiler and an overspill fridge freezer! A UK double garage is about 5m x 5m, so my space is limited. I press a button and my screen rolls down in front of my garage door. Shut some curtains, turn the PC / Projector on, place the launch monitor on the floor - and start hitting! I also use the screen / PC to pair up with a Kickr, and do indoor cycling in there. A nice immersive setup.
I've seen some stunning builds where people have spent silly money on dedicated golf sim rooms or built structures in their garden to house them. There's also loads of Reddit posts of people making a golf sim with budgets of <$2k!
My budget is far from unlimited... but I'm willing to pay a little more for better / faster components - purely so they last a bit longer!
Swapping the projector to a Benq TK710STI (4K) was what started this. An expensive route to add some more pixels / detail... but I guess that's why we're all here!
I think you alluded to it in your previous post - poor programming. I'm not a coder, so can't comment - but I've read similar phrases about Foresight's golf software - and how it needs ridiculous hardware specs for what it's actually doing.
There are other sim software out there that are doing the same thing (GS Pro, E6) that look similar - but don't need anything like the same hardware to run smoothly.