Help with a first build for work

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Hi everyone.

I've been planning a build for a long while now for my work PC and a colleague has just pointed me to this forum. Apparently it's a good place to get recommendations and to check if parts are compatible.

So, on with what I'm looking for. Firstly, budget. Work have given me an absolute maximum of £823, It is so specific because it is worked out as a percentage of current wage. So that is the absolute maximum. However, even though work are paying for the machine, I am still looking to get the best value possible because I have to justify the price. In other words, if there is any sort of 'sweet spot' as my colleague has pointed out, I would very much like to hit it.

In terms of the machine itself, the Processor is the number one priority. I work for a university as a lecturer of Geography and that involves a lot of work on statistics using a program called SPSS. I also use another program called ArcGIS, a mapping program. Both involve processing large amounts of data and, on my current machine, are extremely sluggish. I was thinking of going for an intel, preferably an i5 or even an i7 if its within budget as I have been reading that intel are the ones to go with right now.

I'm not a gamer per se. I do play the odd thing here and there but nothing too demanding. Things like Football Manager 2013, which I assume is again processor heavy.

In terms of peripherals, I need a mouse, keyboard and speakers, I do have a screen but would like to be able to buy a second one in the future, maybe now if it is within budget. I also need a DVD drive, one that can write to disks for work.

The PC does have to last me three years contractually, otherwise I must purchase my own, so ideally I would like it to be able to manage that.

So that's it, sorry for the essay, I tend to get carried away. I'm looking to buy it on this website so if there is anyway you can gain commission I would be happy to do that. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
Hi and welcome to the forums :D

We're mostly just a bunch of enthusiasts with no affiliation to the shop at all.

I've put together a spec for you below with the focus on processing power and the added speed of an SSD.

I'm sure someone else will suggest different specs, so you'll have more than one to choose from

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £249.95
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £99.95
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD120BW) £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x XFX Pro 650W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £64.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G160C9K) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x BitFenix Merc Beta Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Creative A60 2.0 Speaker System (51MF1635AA001) £14.99
1 x Gigabyte KM6150 Keyboard and Mouse Set £9.98
Total : £773.28 (includes shipping : £17.10).

 
Hi and welcome to the forums :D

We're mostly just a bunch of enthusiasts with no affiliation to the shop at all.

I've put together a spec for you below with the focus on processing power and the added speed of an SSD.

I'm sure someone else will suggest different specs, so you'll have more than one to choose from

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £249.95
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £99.95
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD120BW) £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x XFX Pro 650W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £64.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G160C9K) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x BitFenix Merc Beta Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Creative A60 2.0 Speaker System (51MF1635AA001) £14.99
1 x Gigabyte KM6150 Keyboard and Mouse Set £9.98
Total : £773.28 (includes shipping : £17.10).


Thanks Ted, I really like this build. Am I right in thinking that I could load SPSS/ArcGIS on the SSD, along with any data I am currently using for increased performance, and then use the 1TB drive for everything else?

Also, would using Windows 7 instead of 8 affect the performance or price, As I really don't get on with Windows 8.

Finally, how much do you think a decent screen for work would be to go along with the build?
 
Also, a further question. Without a graphics card, how capable would the PC be for light gaming?

Not very. You could always buy a 2nd hand bargain like a 1GB 460 or a 6850 for £50ish out of your own pocket. You do realise these are parts and would need to be assembled? It's not difficult to do and we can talk you through it and point you to video tutorials.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £249.95
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2280HS 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £83.99
1 x MSI B85-G43 Intel B85 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £68.99
1 x **B Grade** Samsung 120GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD120BW) £60.00
1 x Thermaltake Smart 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £49.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G160C9K) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black £47.95
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Gigabyte KM6150 Keyboard and Mouse Set £9.98
Total : £820.27 (includes shipping : £11.25).



Best I could really do and include a screen (it has speakers). PSU has enough juice for whatever GPU you are likely to install. I don't like the Bitfenix Merc case, it lacks USB3 and has only a single 120mm fan.
 
Not very. You could always buy a 2nd hand bargain like a 1GB 460 or a 6850 for £50ish out of your own pocket. You do realise these are parts and would need to be assembled? It's not difficult to do and we can talk you through it and point you to video tutorials.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £249.95
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2280HS 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £83.99
1 x MSI B85-G43 Intel B85 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £68.99
1 x **B Grade** Samsung 120GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD120BW) £60.00
1 x Thermaltake Smart 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £49.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G160C9K) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black £47.95
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Gigabyte KM6150 Keyboard and Mouse Set £9.98
Total : £820.27 (includes shipping : £11.25).



Best I could really do and include a screen (it has speakers). PSU has enough juice for whatever GPU you are likely to install. I don't like the Bitfenix Merc case, it lacks USB3 and has only a single 120mm fan.

The i7 is showing up at £275.99 on my screen? :confused:
 
Thanks Ted, I really like this build. Am I right in thinking that I could load SPSS/ArcGIS on the SSD, along with any data I am currently using for increased performance, and then use the 1TB drive for everything else?

Also, would using Windows 7 instead of 8 affect the performance or price, As I really don't get on with Windows 8.

Finally, how much do you think a decent screen for work would be to go along with the build?

Windows 7 would be my preference too, and you'll not suffer if you go with 7 over 8.

As already said the Haswell range aren't the best for gaming but it really depends on what 'light gaming' means. For stuff like football manager it will be fine, anything 3d and it'll start to struggle. You could drop to an i5 which is still a capable CPU without the multi-threading ability of the i7 and get a cheaper GPU such as the one below

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7750 2048MB GDDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card £74.99
Total : £83.69 (includes shipping : £7.25).



Your assumptions with the SSD are correct, should be plenty of space to put the programs that require the extra performance on it and everything else on the mechanical drive.

Screen wise again it depends on your usage. If you require spot on colour reproduction then go for an IPS based screen. If it isn't so crucial then a good LED TN panel will do just fine. One thing I learnt about monitors a long time ago is to always select one with a long on site warranty.

Good luck whichever way you decide to go :D
 
Ah yes, I realise that I have to build it. I have found a few tutorials on Youtube and it looks like as long as I take my time I should be okay :). It will be my first build so I may find myself looking for help on here quite often.

Again I like the builds, however, thinking about it I would like it to have some sort of gaming capability. Would it be possible to respec with some form of gaming capability, nothing on the highest settings.

I didn't realise monitors were so expensive, I have 24" flatscreen Television in the office, would that function in the same way or would it be slightly blurred? If not, I have a screen for now anyway so we can forget that :).

In response to Ted, I think a graphics card would be the way to go, some of my work involves rendering landscapes in 3D as well so its fully justifiable. I don't mind dropping the processor a bit, however I would like it to be weighted more towards processing than graphics. How would you suggest to go?
 
Overclocking = setting things like the CPU to perform at higher speeds than intended. (Perfectly safe and reliable if done correctly)

By the sounds you'd be better off not worrying about overclocking, especially on a works computer.

Building a PC is not much different from playing with Lego, should be no problem, just follow the Youtube guides. :D
 
I have no idea what overclocking is and why I would be interested in it. I really am new to all this I'm afraid. What is it?
Overclocking is telling your components to run faster than default. It can get you 'free' performance, but the downsides are you don't know how fast you'll be able to tell it to run, they'll use more power, they'll get hotter and they'll probably not last as long.
It's fine to do, many people do it routinely but if you don't want to that's absolutely fine. The 'k' edition CPU allows you to do this overclocking while the non-k edition doesn't but is cheaper. If you don't overclock the non-k editions are the same performance for less money.

Edit: Curses, too slow typing! Beaten to it.
 
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