Help with a video editing system

Colin Bailey

Colin Bailey

Colin Bailey

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Hi all,

I used to build PCs a long time ago but haven't for ages. I think the last machine was a Pentium 3 :rolleyes:yes, that long ago ;)

It looks like not a great deal has changed on the what needs to be done... obviously all the components are very new but I mean the principal of case, PSU, CPU, etc. Is the same.

I after advice one the best sort for video editing ( and a little gaming).

I've been looking at the intel i8700 with the Asus Rog m/b.

I want to spend c1400 quid. Can anyone provide me any the of the core components useful for video editing please. A little gaming would be good but its main use is 4k video from a Mavic Air.

If it's cheaper to buy built from OC I'll certainly do that. Cheers
 
8c16t ryzen for video editing on a budget, with 32gb ram and a 512 nvme ssd
haven't added windows, don't know if you need it - so factor into budget if required (can be had for £5-£100 depending on where you look and how legit/grey the key is)
shame about the gpu pricing as one could have got a gtx 1070 for not much more, if there wasnt a crypto craze going on at the moment

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,445.99 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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Thank you very much for that. I had read the i8700 was a better CPU for the cash now.

The whole reason this is happening is because I was about to buy a 1.6k iMac for editing but started to wonder if the money would be better spent on a PC that I can also use for gaming/vr. Its main aim will be handling 4k video though.
 
Tamz list above is solid covers your rendering/editing specially if it's Adobe Prem .

If editing is your bread and butter and more then hobby, really recommend spending the extra for thread ripper ! Specially at 4K!
Had to bump it down to gtx 1050ti for gaming though to keep costs down :/


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,706.05 (includes shipping: £13.20)​

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Again, tamz build is the better all rounder and will perform better cheaper then Intel build whilst keeping in budget

Might want to think about Raid 1 for HDD unless you back up work externally !
 
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Hi there,

Editing *def* only a hobby ;)

My current macbook pro (2010) won't even play a 4k file....I need something newer.

I think the last suggestion is more than I need but thanks again. A good all rounder is the best way to describe it but as I'm into drone footage, I'd like some power to manage the footage.

Cheers all!
 
Colin Bailey said:
The reason I keep saying i8700 is because of this build

https://youtu.be/mUSdOLwkP1M
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I cringed at that single 120 AIO cooling that 8700k - must be running at default ..

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...PU-Comparison-Skylake-X-vs-Threadripper-1012/

Need to look harder sure I can find 8700k Vs 1920x for video editing but can see it holds up against 8 core Intels , and these systems are Quad channel were it's useful in applications like this, has advantage over dual channel set ups, but doesn't make a difference at all in gaming .

*Sorry, missed part of hobby. Def worth seeing 8700 Vs 1700 for 4k editing .
Also Ryzen a lot cheaper and allows for a mid range GPU at their inflated price .. as any lower makes more sense for a console which is a killer shame :(

Worth hitting forums on your software packages to see results.
Plus with Z370 boards, most manufactures know they performed under par with VRMs on lower models .
Aorus 5/Gigabyte UD3H/Asus Hero/AsRock Taichi if you are going for coffeelake system. VRMs will be able to handle the heat and power load for long extended periods of time and stress which gaming doesn't create
 
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@Colin Bailey 1800x is a better value proposition if you're into heavy 4k video editing.
the 8700k performs slightly worse in multithreaded workloads (~5%), but has vastly better clockspeed and singlethreaded performance (~30%)
so if you're mainly doing video editing, you may find that 1800x and 8700k performs neck and neck.
but for gaming, the 8700k is better.
value-wise, you're looking to pay ~£500 for the 8700k+board, vs ~£360 for the 1800x+board. the 1800x wins hands down.
plus ryzen am4 isn't a dead-end platform (supported until 2020), whereas the 8700k+z370 is (supported only until z390 is available) - so upgrading on the rzyen platform is as simple as dropping in a new cpu, if needed. whereas the intel platform needs a new cpu AND board.

also, you'd want at least 32gb ram, and an nvme ssd - i can't imagine 4k video editing being much fun on a slow hdd/ssd lol
 
Hi all,


Thank you for the great advice again. I did go i8700k in the end as I decided that I may get a slightly better gaming experience with that as well as an adequate hobbyist video editing unit.


I went i8700k, Asus Maximus, STRIX 1080ti, Coolermaster 240L AIO, modular Cosair PSU, Coolermaster H500p.


I went RGB to the max and I know not everyone will like it (but I thought it was a bit of fun - it can always be switched off :) )


….and don't worry, I realised that I had some of the RGB cabled incorrectly, that’s all sorted now so the colours are uniform, as you’ll see in the little video.

2wdrl0x.jpg



Thought I would share the rig and thanks to the people on here and OC for helping me with it:


Now the comes the final piece of the puzzle…the monitor. The rig is currently attached to 13 (!) year old LCD telly L


I need something better – I am thinking x34a, but then I have seen the newer x34p – but that’s even more expensive. Not sure I can stomach a £1.1k monitor – saying that, the GFX card was pricey enough from my old days with Pentium IIs J


Any monitor advice would be welcomed – I do fancy an ultrawide – are they as good as they look in the pics?


Cheers all
 
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Colin Bailey said:
Hi all,


Thank you for the great advice again. I did go i8700k in the end as I decided that I may get a slightly better gaming experience with that as well as an adequate hobbyist video editing unit.
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I hope you are aware that no further processor upgrade is possible with your motherboard. If you decide in 6 months that the configuration is weak, you will need to get rid off it all.
 
4K8KW10 said:
I hope you are aware that no further processor upgrade is possible with your motherboard. If you decide in 6 months that the configuration is weak, you will need to get rid off it all.
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I very much doubt he'll find his system will be weak, even for video editing for a good number of years, enjoy that awesome PC OP.
 
4K8KW10 said:
I hope you are aware that no further processor upgrade is possible with your motherboard. If you decide in 6 months that the configuration is weak, you will need to get rid off it all.
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i dont think a 6/12 intel will be weak in 6 months. specially with it having a stronger IPC/IMC then AMD . if gaming is more focus then Video editing then it would be plenty .
Until Vendor road map is in front of me or is leaked then no system is non-upgradeable IMO - CPU there will last 4-6 years just fine

@Colin Bailey

looking good, able to get cashback deal from ASUS UK? hows the 240 AIO holding up? have a custom 360 AIO keeping mine in check at 5.1ghz

also your monitor should outlive your GPU and system easily, so worth the extra cash... is the new version HDR???

would honestly wait a little longer for it, makes a big difference if you've seen TVs with it .
 
4K8KW10 said:
I hope you are aware that no further processor upgrade is possible with your motherboard. If you decide in 6 months that the configuration is weak, you will need to get rid off it all.
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My last desktop was a Pentium II, my Wintel laptop a 2005 Dell and my Macbook a 2009 ....I have a few years in this.... :p:p:p
 
Uncle_Gravy said:
I very much doubt he'll find his system will be weak, even for video editing for a good number of years, enjoy that awesome PC OP.
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orbitalwalsh said:
i dont think a 6/12 intel will be weak in 6 months. specially with it having a stronger IPC/IMC then AMD . if gaming is more focus then Video editing then it would be plenty .
Until Vendor road map is in front of me or is leaked then no system is non-upgradeable IMO - CPU there will last 4-6 years just fine
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Intel to offer 8-core / 16-thread mainstream CPUs come late 2018.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...r-10nm-ice-lake-8-cores-16-threads-late-2018/

https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Rumor-Intel-Core-i7-9700k-Could-Have-8-Cores-16-Threads

http://www.game-debate.com/news/237...mainstream-8-core-cpus-in-second-half-of-2018

I do consider these 6-core processors DOA even now, considering where the progress has led us to..... 32-thread monsters.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
i dont think a 6/12 intel will be weak in 6 months. specially with it having a stronger IPC/IMC then AMD . if gaming is more focus then Video editing then it would be plenty .
Until Vendor road map is in front of me or is leaked then no system is non-upgradeable IMO - CPU there will last 4-6 years just fine

@Colin Bailey

looking good, able to get cashback deal from ASUS UK? hows the 240 AIO holding up? have a custom 360 AIO keeping mine in check at 5.1ghz

also your monitor should outlive your GPU and system easily, so worth the extra cash... is the new version HDR???

would honestly wait a little longer for it, makes a big difference if you've seen TVs with it .
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I have applied for the cashback - it seemed to go through - I'll keep you all posted :) I'm not sure if the new version is HDR - I think its 120Hz refresh vs 100 and a slightly better curvature on it.

I haven't braved OC depths yet. On a stock 3.7. It seems much faster than my Pentium was :p

As for future proofing, I gave up with all of that many, many years ago. You think you can and the brands want you to think like that, but in the end stuff just gets old - so you have to rebuy when its at that stage ;)

I fear a trip to OC for a fancy monitor this week - great set of people there :cool::cool:
 
4K8KW10 said:
Intel to offer 8-core / 16-thread mainstream CPUs come late 2018.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...r-10nm-ice-lake-8-cores-16-threads-late-2018/

https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Rumor-Intel-Core-i7-9700k-Could-Have-8-Cores-16-Threads

http://www.game-debate.com/news/237...mainstream-8-core-cpus-in-second-half-of-2018

I do consider these 6-core processors DOA even now, considering where the progress has led us to..... 32-thread monsters.
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z390 is for current 6 core coffeelake due to z370 being rushed and missing features the h370 will launch with, along with better VRM count and quality- intel next one should be 8 core but more likely next gen mobo, couldnt comment at all if it will use same socket or not

@Colin Bailey worth seen how the 1080ti does on games you play at that resolution to see if it justifies going for the higher HZ model...
 
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